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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7183233" data-attributes="member: 4937">Very close, but not quite.&nbsp;&nbsp; Simplified, it would look more like this:&quot;Because real women are physically weaker than real men, and because physical strength should never be used as the measure of a person's worth (because it isn't), then demanding that all RPGs provide for fantasy women who are as strong as men, because if they do not, then you say that they are sexist because in the game women would be inferior to men, is itself sexist, because by that standard, real women really are inferior to men.&quot;I'm not saying that it is wrong to create a fantasy RPG where female characters can be as strong as men.&nbsp; I run such a game right now, which should have been the first clue that your statement of my position was wrong!I am saying that if you claim a universal standard that any portrayal of women as on average physically weaker than men is sexist, then there is something very strange about how you are viewing real women that does not add up to what I'd consider a healthy and affirming view.No, because you would then be literally saying that if women can't compete with men on equal terms in physical strength, then that women are of less value.And I confess, owing to the reoccurrence of them, that I'm having a certain difficulty believing that these strawmen you are throwing up to describe my position are actually based off of sincere misunderstandings, and not being offered out of ill will.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7183233, member: 4937"] Very close, but not quite. Simplified, it would look more like this: "Because real women are physically weaker than real men, and because physical strength should never be used as the measure of a person's worth (because it isn't), then demanding that all RPGs provide for fantasy women who are as strong as men, because if they do not, then you say that they are sexist because in the game women would be inferior to men, is itself sexist, because by that standard, real women really are inferior to men." I'm not saying that it is wrong to create a fantasy RPG where female characters can be as strong as men. I run such a game right now, which should have been the first clue that your statement of my position was wrong! I am saying that if you claim a universal standard that any portrayal of women as on average physically weaker than men is sexist, then there is something very strange about how you are viewing real women that does not add up to what I'd consider a healthy and affirming view. No, because you would then be literally saying that if women can't compete with men on equal terms in physical strength, then that women are of less value. And I confess, owing to the reoccurrence of them, that I'm having a certain difficulty believing that these strawmen you are throwing up to describe my position are actually based off of sincere misunderstandings, and not being offered out of ill will. [/QUOTE]

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