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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7183355" data-attributes="member: 22779">I gotta admit, I've never quite understood why the need for the caps.It's not like the game is granular enough to explain the gaps.&nbsp; What's the point really?&nbsp; It's not like the gap in physical strength is that huge, without some serious mitigating factors (drug use, or perhaps training from childhood, I'm thinking something like a Sumo wrestler here).&nbsp; I mean, it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense.&nbsp; Why would we cap female humans, but, not elves?&nbsp; I mean, an elf is half the size of a human - at least by mass.&nbsp; Never minding small races like gnomes and halflings.&nbsp; Or, flip it the other way.&nbsp; A half-orc, on average, weighs in at 217 pounds.&nbsp; An average human clocks in at 165 pounds.&nbsp; Why is our 1/2 orc only getting a +2 Str modifier?&nbsp; Note, our Dragonborn clocks in at 238 pounds and is only +2 as well.&nbsp; Why aren't all humans capped at much weaker than either of those two races?&nbsp; I mean, when you're giving up SEVENTY pounds on someone, you're a HECK of a lot less strong.The MAX size for a human in 5e is 190 pounds.&nbsp; That's it.&nbsp; The biggest human you can have, by the rules, isn't even in the Heavyweight boxing class.&nbsp; But, there's no cap on human strength?&nbsp; Seriously?&nbsp; This is a deep dark rabbit hole that you start jumping down if you want to start applying science to D&amp;D.------------I think part of the issue here is that people forget just how much bigger people have gotten in the last couple of generations.&nbsp; Let's not forget, once upon a time, this guy was Mr. Universe:<img src="https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f0/44/7f/f0447fabbaeb7ff0236b577b48c61603--bodybuilding-competition-vintage-man.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />((That's Sean Connery for those who didn't know))Or, take a look at Conan.&nbsp; Before the Boris Vajello images of Conan, this was a picture of a seriously strong guy:<img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/36/Tales_of_Conan.jpg/220px-Tales_of_Conan.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />(circa 1954 Tales of Conan Cover)It's only been in the last couple of generations that we see the Schwarzenegger sized guys.&nbsp; Even in the genre art back then, humans just weren't that big.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7183355, member: 22779"] I gotta admit, I've never quite understood why the need for the caps. It's not like the game is granular enough to explain the gaps. What's the point really? It's not like the gap in physical strength is that huge, without some serious mitigating factors (drug use, or perhaps training from childhood, I'm thinking something like a Sumo wrestler here). I mean, it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Why would we cap female humans, but, not elves? I mean, an elf is half the size of a human - at least by mass. Never minding small races like gnomes and halflings. Or, flip it the other way. A half-orc, on average, weighs in at 217 pounds. An average human clocks in at 165 pounds. Why is our 1/2 orc only getting a +2 Str modifier? Note, our Dragonborn clocks in at 238 pounds and is only +2 as well. Why aren't all humans capped at much weaker than either of those two races? I mean, when you're giving up SEVENTY pounds on someone, you're a HECK of a lot less strong. The MAX size for a human in 5e is 190 pounds. That's it. The biggest human you can have, by the rules, isn't even in the Heavyweight boxing class. But, there's no cap on human strength? Seriously? This is a deep dark rabbit hole that you start jumping down if you want to start applying science to D&D. ------------ I think part of the issue here is that people forget just how much bigger people have gotten in the last couple of generations. Let's not forget, once upon a time, this guy was Mr. Universe: [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f0/44/7f/f0447fabbaeb7ff0236b577b48c61603--bodybuilding-competition-vintage-man.jpg[/img] ((That's Sean Connery for those who didn't know)) Or, take a look at Conan. Before the Boris Vajello images of Conan, this was a picture of a seriously strong guy: [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/36/Tales_of_Conan.jpg/220px-Tales_of_Conan.jpg[/img] (circa 1954 Tales of Conan Cover) It's only been in the last couple of generations that we see the Schwarzenegger sized guys. Even in the genre art back then, humans just weren't that big. [/QUOTE]

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