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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7187928" data-attributes="member: 23751">Magic items can be created at lower levels through use of scrolls.&nbsp; There is a failure chance, but it still works.It takes time.&nbsp; So does creating them in 3e.&nbsp; 5% isn't bad.&nbsp; Sure, if you run around creating dozens of items it will bite you in the rear, but if all you want is to make a few items that complement you, you are very unlikely to lose any con.I read it and there is no instruction to make it as onerous as possible, and even gives a suggestion on being soft hearted.Where is that wish limitation?&nbsp; I don't see it in permanency, enchant an item or wish, nor do I see it under magic item creation in the DMG.You can opt to be harsh, but I don't know what you have against your players.&nbsp; The rules don't require you to be harsh, though.&nbsp; That's on you.What page is that on?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7187928, member: 23751"] Magic items can be created at lower levels through use of scrolls. There is a failure chance, but it still works. It takes time. So does creating them in 3e. 5% isn't bad. Sure, if you run around creating dozens of items it will bite you in the rear, but if all you want is to make a few items that complement you, you are very unlikely to lose any con. I read it and there is no instruction to make it as onerous as possible, and even gives a suggestion on being soft hearted. Where is that wish limitation? I don't see it in permanency, enchant an item or wish, nor do I see it under magic item creation in the DMG. You can opt to be harsh, but I don't know what you have against your players. The rules don't require you to be harsh, though. That's on you. What page is that on? [/QUOTE]

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