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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5762381" data-attributes="member: 2011">Thinking about it, there is something that does bug me in the 3.5 to 4E shift.In their attempt to nerf CoDzilla and other casters, WotC didn't just do it at the Heroic and Paragon levels.They did it at the Epic levels for powers that were originally heroic level earlier edition powers and not all that game breaking.How many casters can fly around the battlefield at Epic levels for the entire encounter? It's possible, especially with specific magic items, but its still fairly rare. This could be done at level 5 in the earlier versions of the game, but is somewhat rare for Demigods in 4E.I can see a group of 3E Demigods and 4E PC Demigods getting together for drinks, and the 3E Demigods are laughing their asses off because most of the 4E Demigod and Liches and other mega ultra powerful PCs cannot even fly.3E Demigod 1: "Even my butler can fly on his own. My dog can fly on his own. I wish the damn cat couldn't fly on his own."3E Demigod 2 whispers: "Should we tell them that Orcus took over WotC with the master plan to make every PC a superhero, everyone can be super. And when everyone's super, no-one will be."3E Demigod 1 whispers: "No, no. If they find that out, they'll demand that WotC fire Orcus as CEO and put it back the way it was. It's better if the masses of players out there are totally unaware that his master plan worked. They cannot even fly. snort."</blockquote>