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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5764423" data-attributes="member: 2011">True, but it's not an example of the player using his imagination which was the topic we were discussing. Illusions used to be used to create effects that the player imagined, not just set in stone illusions of specific items.Although Illusory Wall is an illusion, the player's imagination is not really part of it. It cannot be a treasure chest or webs hanging down.There are 6 illusion utility spells that create quasi-fake creatures (out of over 2800 utility powers total):Distracting IllusionSpectral ImageSpectral HoundShadow AllyClever EscapeRaven's GlamorMost of these powers are weaker versions of summoning powers and really don't help the party significantly as per the discussion of creating an illusion to allow the party to escape.There are 2 illusion utility spells that create objects:Illusory WallPhantom LegionAnd there is one illusion utility power that allow one to affect the terrain to the point that they could fool someone, for example, have someone step into water:Spectral VisionThe vast majority of the other illusion utility spells are concealment, invisibility, or PC disguise. There is one that hands out temporary hit points.None of these powers allow the player to significantly use his or her imagination to affect the illusion. There are a handful of Daily attack illusion spells that have one effect or another, but it's really few and far between.This is not a large set of powers to choose from. The designers have mostly wiped the concept of creating cool illusions out of the game system.</blockquote>

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