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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 9274279" data-attributes="member: 59816">I really don't think they're pretending it is "5e as it has been" - their goal (and they've been pretty clear about this, IMO) is that it is "5e, but with some quality of life improvements".Whether we (generally) agree that they've succeeded or not is going to take time (and I'm sure that we'll argue about it for years to come!) But they've certainly NOT claimed that it's exactly the same as 5e 2014. That would make no sense.OTOH, I've played playtest characters at otherwise entirely 2014 tables (with the DM's permission) and NO ONE NOTICED. I'm serious. The playtest characters are far less disruptive at the table than any of the existing CharOp builds. They play a little "better", sure, but hardly noticeably so.In my experience, they're better for the player, but NOT worse for the DM - which is about right. Similar, in fact, to playing a Level-Up character, but without the extra little expertise dice and other rules subsets.It's exactly what they've been saying all along - it's 5e "adjusted for 2024". Which is fine. I'll say again, as a retailer, it's exactly what I'd want out of a new group of core books. As a player, I'd rather they overhauled the game a little more, but I recognise that it's not about just ME. This is what is good for the health of the game, as best as we can get.</blockquote>