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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 9298052" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>How does the majority of modules you've happened to look at or play in have any relevance to what's contained in most modules, and what relevance does that have to what's typical of 5E gameplay in general, including all the tables not using modules?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But the thing I was talking about being invalidated was the feature, not your player's erroneous interpretation, so it appears your statement was a non sequitur.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The feature actually answers these questions for anyone who bothers to read it: "specifically, you know the local messengers, corrupt caravan masters, and seedy sailors who can deliver messages for you." An experienced criminal has travelled to a distant port city. Because of their extensive familiarity with the criminal underworld, the criminal is aware of and has an "in" with the criminal element among the port's population of sailors, let's say, who can deliver messages to the criminal's contact across the sea. I'm not sure what the problem is.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>You have a player who has chosen the Noble background for their character, which seems to take for granted such a thing as high or noble birth existing in the setting, indicating to you, the DM, they're interested in exploring, through their character, issues related to nobility which may include whether noble families are entitled to the wealth, power, and privilege they enjoy, perhaps because of something "special" about them or a "divine right" they've inherited, and whether they bear some responsibility to those over which they rule in exchange for it. Do you mean to say your response is to tell the player these issues have all been resolved in your mind and that is what will determine how you will make adjudications related to their background? Because, in my opinion, if that's the case, you might as well tell the player not to bother playing a noble in your game. I mean, are you also going to lower their CON score because you assume they're inbred?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I was responding to this:</p><p></p><p>You don't mention Charlatan at all in this post.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You'll have to explain what you mean. Take the False Identity feature from the Charlatan background. It's in no way dependent on being in a specific area. You can assume your created persona and forge documents no matter where you are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, so your understanding of reality is in places where the blues is popular pretty much no one is interested in pop music, as least not enough to support a venue featuring pop? I would think this situation would be presented to the pop-music-only entertainer as a challenge of sorts, which, if that's the case, makes me wonder why the player is asserting they've booked a venue catering to pop instead of addressing the challenge in some way. Sounds like dysfunctional play to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, it seems like you've decided dive bars are exclusive of piano bars. If that's the case, I'm sure the players have been apprised of the situation with a statement like, "You're headed to a town where there are no venues for pianists," which makes me wonder why the piano-only entertainer player is asserting they've booked a gig instead of addressing the challenge the DM is clearly laying down for their character.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why not? I haven't read <em>Descent into Avernus,</em> but a quick look at wikipedia tells me it's set in an urban environment. Are the denizens of Avernus called out as being particularly averse to performances or something? </p><p></p><p>Honestly, this all smacks of a DM bending over backwards to come up with reasons to invalidate a player's background feature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Is the wizard still alive? What happens if the druid's player asserts the wizard may know some information that's important to the party and attempts to contact them?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think, as a component of PC-build, players are supposed to care about their backgrounds almost as much as their race and class. If they don't, then I think something has gone wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 9298052, member: 6787503"] How does the majority of modules you've happened to look at or play in have any relevance to what's contained in most modules, and what relevance does that have to what's typical of 5E gameplay in general, including all the tables not using modules? But the thing I was talking about being invalidated was the feature, not your player's erroneous interpretation, so it appears your statement was a non sequitur. The feature actually answers these questions for anyone who bothers to read it: "specifically, you know the local messengers, corrupt caravan masters, and seedy sailors who can deliver messages for you." An experienced criminal has travelled to a distant port city. Because of their extensive familiarity with the criminal underworld, the criminal is aware of and has an "in" with the criminal element among the port's population of sailors, let's say, who can deliver messages to the criminal's contact across the sea. I'm not sure what the problem is. You have a player who has chosen the Noble background for their character, which seems to take for granted such a thing as high or noble birth existing in the setting, indicating to you, the DM, they're interested in exploring, through their character, issues related to nobility which may include whether noble families are entitled to the wealth, power, and privilege they enjoy, perhaps because of something "special" about them or a "divine right" they've inherited, and whether they bear some responsibility to those over which they rule in exchange for it. Do you mean to say your response is to tell the player these issues have all been resolved in your mind and that is what will determine how you will make adjudications related to their background? Because, in my opinion, if that's the case, you might as well tell the player not to bother playing a noble in your game. I mean, are you also going to lower their CON score because you assume they're inbred? I was responding to this: You don't mention Charlatan at all in this post. You'll have to explain what you mean. Take the False Identity feature from the Charlatan background. It's in no way dependent on being in a specific area. You can assume your created persona and forge documents no matter where you are. Okay, so your understanding of reality is in places where the blues is popular pretty much no one is interested in pop music, as least not enough to support a venue featuring pop? I would think this situation would be presented to the pop-music-only entertainer as a challenge of sorts, which, if that's the case, makes me wonder why the player is asserting they've booked a venue catering to pop instead of addressing the challenge in some way. Sounds like dysfunctional play to me. Again, it seems like you've decided dive bars are exclusive of piano bars. If that's the case, I'm sure the players have been apprised of the situation with a statement like, "You're headed to a town where there are no venues for pianists," which makes me wonder why the piano-only entertainer player is asserting they've booked a gig instead of addressing the challenge the DM is clearly laying down for their character. Why not? I haven't read [I]Descent into Avernus,[/I] but a quick look at wikipedia tells me it's set in an urban environment. Are the denizens of Avernus called out as being particularly averse to performances or something? Honestly, this all smacks of a DM bending over backwards to come up with reasons to invalidate a player's background feature. Is the wizard still alive? What happens if the druid's player asserts the wizard may know some information that's important to the party and attempts to contact them? I think, as a component of PC-build, players are supposed to care about their backgrounds almost as much as their race and class. If they don't, then I think something has gone wrong. [/QUOTE]
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