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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9313159" data-attributes="member: 93670">That's a different thing entirely from &quot;Just because you can't figure out how to make it work&quot; however. I think that the question still stands unanswered and I'll elaborate why.Many of the posts defending background features in this thread seem to set the bar for players at &quot;I'm a criminal/noble/sailor/soldier/etc and use my contact to do x&quot; with the responsibility for doing whatever is needed to &quot;make it work&quot; falling on the gm.&nbsp; Your post <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/do-you-plan-to-adopt-d-d5-5one2024redux.702682/post-9312735" target="_blank">1534</a> does not appear to suggest otherwise and the response I'm quoting here seems to be pretty clear about the gm being responsible even when the player makes zero effort beyond declaring the feature for an expected solution.&nbsp; If that is what you are suggesting, why is the player not at all responsible for taking the first step by looking at the current state of things and thinking or working out some beginning to making it work through playing their character?This is especially noteworthy because 1534 was quoting someone has literally commented about how he would allow a player with a relevant background to have an easier time taking that step like finding the right sort of seedy tavern or whatever* earlier in the thread.&nbsp; Why is the player even there if their only responsibility can be replaced by a series of random action tables?&nbsp; You mentioned compromise and working together while others speak of collaboration, but it seems like only one side of the gm screen is doing any work whatsoever.*I'm not going to find the post as multiple people have said similar things more than once</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9313159, member: 93670"] That's a different thing entirely from "[I]Just because [B]you[/B] can't figure out how to make it work[/I]" however. I think that the question still stands unanswered and I'll elaborate why. Many of the posts defending background features in this thread seem to set the bar for players at "I'm a criminal/noble/sailor/soldier/etc and use my contact to do x" with the responsibility for doing whatever is needed to "make it work" falling on the gm. Your post [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/do-you-plan-to-adopt-d-d5-5one2024redux.702682/post-9312735']1534[/URL] does not appear to suggest otherwise and the response I'm quoting here seems to be pretty clear about the gm being responsible even when the player makes [I]zero[/I] effort beyond declaring the feature for an expected solution. If that is what you are suggesting, why is the player not at all responsible for taking the first step by looking at the current state of things and thinking or working out some beginning to making it work through playing their character? This is especially noteworthy because 1534 was quoting someone has literally commented about how he would allow a player with a relevant background to have an easier time taking that step like finding the right sort of seedy tavern or whatever* earlier in the thread. Why is the player even there if their only responsibility can be replaced by a series of random action tables? You mentioned compromise and working together while others speak of collaboration, but it seems like only one side of the gm screen is doing any work whatsoever. *I'm not going to find the post as multiple people have said similar things more than once [/QUOTE]

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