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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 9313202" data-attributes="member: 59816">Yeah, that was a counter to the idea that one had to be okay with illogical scenarios to find a way to make them work. I take issue with that idea. Might have gotten a bit testy, though not as much as it sounds. As usual, I meant it as a friendly barb at worst.It's both. Both player and DM work together. Sometimes you might have a player try it like you describe it, I guess. &quot;I'm a (background) so I get my contact to do X&quot;. But then, I would think that the DM would have an actual NPC who IS that contact, a method by which they contact each other, and go over that scene with the player? Is there anyone who uses any feature in the game as simply &quot;I use feature X&quot; without it then being reflected in the greater narrative?I don't even have players say &quot;I cast Fireball&quot; without one or the other of us then describing more about what that looks like and what happens afterward!It's a back-and-forth that requires effort from both. The Players say they want to do something. The DM provides the tools and story framework. The Players interact with those tools and story framework. The DM reacts to their interactions. I guarantee you that while it's likely that you and I (and Oofta) have slightly different playstyles, that it's not a night-and-day thing. Our games probably look very similar, they just get there jumping through different hoops.That's fine. It would be unnecessary.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 9313202, member: 59816"] Yeah, that was a counter to the idea that one had to be okay with illogical scenarios to find a way to make them work. I take issue with that idea. Might have gotten a bit testy, though not as much as it sounds. As usual, I meant it as a friendly barb at worst. It's both. Both player and DM [I]work together[/I]. Sometimes you might have a player try it like you describe it, I guess. "I'm a (background) so I get my contact to do X". But then, I would think that the DM would have an [I]actual NPC[/I] who IS that contact, a method by which they contact each other, and go over that scene with the player? Is there anyone who uses any feature in the game as simply "I use feature X" without it then being reflected in the greater narrative? I don't even have players say "I cast Fireball" without one or the other of us then describing more about what that looks like and what happens afterward! It's a back-and-forth that requires effort from both. The Players say they want to do something. The DM provides the tools and story framework. The Players interact with those tools and story framework. The DM reacts to their interactions. I guarantee you that while it's likely that you and I (and Oofta) have slightly different playstyles, that it's not a night-and-day thing. Our games probably look very similar, they just get there jumping through different hoops. That's fine. It would be unnecessary. [/QUOTE]

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