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Message: <blockquote data-quote="painandgreed" data-source="post: 3314368" data-attributes="member: 24969">Hah. If I had ever tried to keep the tables from the PCs of any of the gaming groups I had in 1st or 2nd edition AD&D, I would have been laughted at. Besides, the to hit tabels were easy to memorize and IIRC, the official character sheets had places to write down all your saves. My players might have trusted me from time to time, but they always remembered all their own modifiers anyway and expected to see the tables. As DM I don't want to have to work more and remember all the modifiers for monsters, NPCs, and PCs., and would never have wanted to run things like that.Besides, if I would have tried some crappy thing like that, when they DMed the next week, everybody but me would have access to various books during play.</blockquote>