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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darth Shoju" data-source="post: 3315496" data-attributes="member: 11397">I don't see how any of that is edition specific. Other than having to pick feats at first level (a whopping 1...2 if you are human...3 for a human fighter) and some skills, the character generation is basically the same.  As far as needing to worry about what bonuses etc, if the DM is going to do that work for a 1E game they can do that as well in 3E. And new players in a 1E game are just as likely to peek at the DMG or MM in a 3E game. In fact some of the first people I gamed with looked through the DMG and MM mere minutes after I finished DMing their first game (2ed AD&D for the record).Additionally, what does any of that have to do with the use of charts? If you are suggesting that charts make it easier for the DM to handle the number-crunching for the player, I suggest that the d20 system is every bit as easy, if not easier.</blockquote>