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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8219195" data-attributes="member: 16814">I always find this an odd statement, because it seems strange to me to be hung up on when things are made up -- before the game sometime or during the game.&nbsp; I think this is really more a stand in for a feeling of &quot;fairness&quot; in the world -- if the GM is being held to what they made up beforehand, then the players can, through smart play, get a &quot;leg up&quot; on the GM.&nbsp; This looks a lot like classic keyed dungeons, where the GM is expected to stick to the key and 'neutrally' adjudicate action.&nbsp; Thing is, this isn't obviated by ad-libbing, although I'll agree that there's a lot of opportunity for Force here, especially in a game like D&amp;D where the GM has all the authority levers over the fiction.&nbsp; So, I get the idea of preferring the GM have fewer opportunities to deploy Force, but this really doesn't have much to do with when the GM makes things up.As for the OP, my answer is Lemon Curry.&nbsp; It just depends too much on what the game is at any given moment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8219195, member: 16814"] I always find this an odd statement, because it seems strange to me to be hung up on when things are made up -- before the game sometime or during the game. I think this is really more a stand in for a feeling of "fairness" in the world -- if the GM is being held to what they made up beforehand, then the players can, through smart play, get a "leg up" on the GM. This looks a lot like classic keyed dungeons, where the GM is expected to stick to the key and 'neutrally' adjudicate action. Thing is, this isn't obviated by ad-libbing, although I'll agree that there's a lot of opportunity for Force here, especially in a game like D&D where the GM has all the authority levers over the fiction. So, I get the idea of preferring the GM have fewer opportunities to deploy Force, but this really doesn't have much to do with when the GM makes things up. As for the OP, my answer is Lemon Curry. It just depends too much on what the game is at any given moment. [/QUOTE]

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