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<blockquote data-quote="happyhermit" data-source="post: 8220211" data-attributes="member: 6834463">Not a bad analogy. You can still see similar responses on youtube, with Xpeople react to Xfood, things often get quickly categorized as &quot;like our x&quot; even when they are fundamentally quite different.Agreed, although with the caveat that they might already be playing a game that's a great fit for them and learning/playing a bunch of new systems might just involve a lot of playing games wherein they have less fun.I like a lot of things where I have major issues with the creators, and I had a positive opinion of the Fate community and PbtA when getting into those games. It's not a factor, I wasn't intending on playing Burning Wheel again regardless, the recent issues with the creator just make it less likely I keep the books despite the fact that I keep everything these days.I wasn't reading/using those rulesets in order to be appreciated or do something benevolent, I was hoping for great experiences. The chip on my shoulder seems to me not one bit larger than yours, though I will say right now I really appreciate how civil this post was. You get &quot;irked&quot; when people seem to you to not understand the games they are criticizing, I feel the need to comment when I feel fans of these games come off as &quot;elitist&quot; is probably a sufficient catch-all term I suppose.I mean, even here, where you are being very polite you come across several times as; &quot;Well... you had this baggage about the authors, so I don't know if you really gave it a fair chance&quot; It just gets old.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="happyhermit, post: 8220211, member: 6834463"] Not a bad analogy. You can still see similar responses on youtube, with Xpeople react to Xfood, things often get quickly categorized as "like our x" even when they are fundamentally quite different. Agreed, although with the caveat that they might already be playing a game that's a great fit for them and learning/playing a bunch of new systems might just involve a lot of playing games wherein they have less fun. I like a lot of things where I have major issues with the creators, and I had a positive opinion of the Fate community and PbtA when getting into those games. It's not a factor, I wasn't intending on playing Burning Wheel again regardless, the recent issues with the creator just make it less likely I keep the books despite the fact that I keep everything these days. I wasn't reading/using those rulesets in order to be appreciated or do something benevolent, I was hoping for great experiences. The chip on my shoulder seems to me not one bit larger than yours, though I will say right now I really appreciate how civil this post was. You get "irked" when people seem to you to not understand the games they are criticizing, I feel the need to comment when I feel fans of these games come off as "elitist" is probably a sufficient catch-all term I suppose. I mean, even here, where you are being very polite you come across several times as; "Well... you had this baggage about the authors, so I don't know if you [I]really[/I] gave it a fair chance" It just gets old. [/QUOTE]

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