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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8220471" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Here's the thing. What's often cited as reasons to want heavy prep is consistency and the feel of depth -- I believe "living, breathing world" was used upthread. But, heavy prep is not necessary to achieve this -- sufficient, yes, but not necessary. Yet, when this is pointed out, people start coming up with other reasons why -- usually that they can tell (talked about that) or that if they found out it would bother them. This is directly saying that there are additional reasons than the ones provided for the preference, and I've encouraged people to do a bit of soul searching to figure out why that is. I've provided some leads that I've noted from other conversations and because they applied to me, at one time, those being a desire for skilled play (which can feel obviated by a GM with no real restrictions on their authority over the fictional state of the game) and/or a lack of trust in the GM to be fair (ditto). </p><p></p><p>Good thing I haven't said that, eh? And, when you go to a magic show, and see a great trick, is it elitist to say it was an illusion and what you think you saw isn't what you saw? I don't think so, so as a generality, this admonition is lacking. It's setting it up so that any suggestion to experience more things said by anyone can be easily dismissed as elitism. I've been pretty good about putting in hedges in my statements -- not making absolute statements, avoiding directly telling someone anything, and including plenty of call outs to my experiences and that it's perfectly fine to have a different preference, yet here we are, despite that, with you continuing to admonish me as to be elitist. Yet, I don't really care how you play, except that I hope you have the best experience you can. That's the only thing I wish for because it grows the hobby the fastest, and that benefits me tangentially. However, this is also a board where we discuss games, and if certain things are considered too elitist to bring up, well, that's an interesting position to take for the one calling elitism.</p><p></p><p>Just that you seemed to intend this as something that applies to me, but it cuts in the other direction as well -- if you're always looking for the hint of elitism, perhaps when you think you smell it you should check your own shoes. I was noting that it didn't appear to be intended ironically by you, but in more of a mic drop manner, which made it unintentionally ironic. Like rain on your wedding day, or spoons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8220471, member: 16814"] Here's the thing. What's often cited as reasons to want heavy prep is consistency and the feel of depth -- I believe "living, breathing world" was used upthread. But, heavy prep is not necessary to achieve this -- sufficient, yes, but not necessary. Yet, when this is pointed out, people start coming up with other reasons why -- usually that they can tell (talked about that) or that if they found out it would bother them. This is directly saying that there are additional reasons than the ones provided for the preference, and I've encouraged people to do a bit of soul searching to figure out why that is. I've provided some leads that I've noted from other conversations and because they applied to me, at one time, those being a desire for skilled play (which can feel obviated by a GM with no real restrictions on their authority over the fictional state of the game) and/or a lack of trust in the GM to be fair (ditto). Good thing I haven't said that, eh? And, when you go to a magic show, and see a great trick, is it elitist to say it was an illusion and what you think you saw isn't what you saw? I don't think so, so as a generality, this admonition is lacking. It's setting it up so that any suggestion to experience more things said by anyone can be easily dismissed as elitism. I've been pretty good about putting in hedges in my statements -- not making absolute statements, avoiding directly telling someone anything, and including plenty of call outs to my experiences and that it's perfectly fine to have a different preference, yet here we are, despite that, with you continuing to admonish me as to be elitist. Yet, I don't really care how you play, except that I hope you have the best experience you can. That's the only thing I wish for because it grows the hobby the fastest, and that benefits me tangentially. However, this is also a board where we discuss games, and if certain things are considered too elitist to bring up, well, that's an interesting position to take for the one calling elitism. Just that you seemed to intend this as something that applies to me, but it cuts in the other direction as well -- if you're always looking for the hint of elitism, perhaps when you think you smell it you should check your own shoes. I was noting that it didn't appear to be intended ironically by you, but in more of a mic drop manner, which made it unintentionally ironic. Like rain on your wedding day, or spoons. [/QUOTE]
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