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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8222020" data-attributes="member: 23751">That's not what I said.&nbsp; We're talking explicitly about those DMs who prepare everything that they can in advance(no one can do everything) and represent to the players that the world is X way, because they've made it so.&nbsp; It's a style of play.&nbsp; Not everyone plays that way and DMs who don't can change things all they want without it being bad faith.&nbsp; But they can and do impact the fiction without being introduced to the players.&nbsp; I know this, because I've done it.&nbsp; Without being in the fiction, those events cannot impact the fiction that way.&nbsp; The fiction is more than the shared space.The very vocal minority complaining loudly.&nbsp; That's where they come from.&nbsp; And you aren't a bad DM to start.&nbsp; To be a bad DM takes bad faith, abusive DMing.&nbsp; A bad DM can become average or good, but new DMs who make mistakes and need to learn are not bad DMs.Another Strawman.&nbsp; I never said that everyone starts as a good DM. I said that they weren't bad.&nbsp; I was never a bad DM, but I did make plenty of mistakes.&nbsp; I played with a DM once who would hit the party with unbeatable encounters if you bragged about the PCs or made him upset.&nbsp; I quit his game after my PCs mysteriously died every time I had to work during a D&amp;D day.&nbsp; Back then I had an irregular schedule.There are pretty big red flags that jump out and hit you.&nbsp; I don't really worry about it.&nbsp; If it's not noticeable, it's not a big deal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8222020, member: 23751"] That's not what I said. We're talking explicitly about those DMs who prepare everything that they can in advance(no one can do everything) and represent to the players that the world is X way, because they've made it so. It's a style of play. Not everyone plays that way and DMs who don't can change things all they want without it being bad faith. But they can and do impact the fiction without being introduced to the players. I know this, because I've done it. Without being in the fiction, those events cannot impact the fiction that way. The fiction is more than the shared space. The very vocal minority complaining loudly. That's where they come from. And you aren't a bad DM to start. To be a bad DM takes bad faith, abusive DMing. A bad DM can become average or good, but new DMs who make mistakes and need to learn are not bad DMs. Another Strawman. I never said that everyone starts as a good DM. I said that they weren't bad. I was never a bad DM, but I did make plenty of mistakes. I played with a DM once who would hit the party with unbeatable encounters if you bragged about the PCs or made him upset. I quit his game after my PCs mysteriously died every time I had to work during a D&D day. Back then I had an irregular schedule. There are pretty big red flags that jump out and hit you. I don't really worry about it. If it's not noticeable, it's not a big deal. [/QUOTE]

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