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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 8083154" data-attributes="member: 6901101">Maybe you don't have one?As stated earlier, I am discussing D&amp;D, 5e specifically. I do not know what &quot;pain points&quot; are. That sounds like a house-rule. Your multiple skill check rules also sound like an alternate version. That said, it also sounds like a fun session. But, the same exact situation could have happened with an any AP. And when this happened, did you not plot in your head what the nemesis might do? Or is going to be purely random? A roll of the die? If it's the latter, I'd love to see the charts. Do you roll random location? Random number of people around the scene? Random weather? Random time of day? Random whether the nemesis has a weapon on them? Or do you have an idea? Just because you didn't write it down doesn't mean you didn't plot ahead.My point is, it is no different than any other session of D&amp;D that would use an AP. Benign NPC's turn hostile all the time due to character actions or failed skill checks. Just because you added extra rules doesn't change that. Not everything can be plotted out. Players surprise us. But, to say you have no idea what the nemesis is now doing and how he might &quot;possibly&quot; appear in the future means you're just rolling random encounters. Which, for the tenth time this thread is legit. It is fun. But, many players sit down to D&amp;D for a story.I have stated this many times in these posts. A to B to C happens. Sometimes it happens out of order, even in AP's. But if a DM is taking character motive into consideration, I bet they have an idea where B is, and C and D. It may not happen that way, but they have an idea.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 8083154, member: 6901101"] Maybe you don't have one? As stated earlier, I am discussing D&D, 5e specifically. I do not know what "pain points" are. That sounds like a house-rule. Your multiple skill check rules also sound like an alternate version. That said, it also sounds like a fun session. But, the same exact situation could have happened with an any AP. And when this happened, did you not plot in your head what the nemesis might do? Or is going to be purely random? A roll of the die? If it's the latter, I'd love to see the charts. Do you roll random location? Random number of people around the scene? Random weather? Random time of day? Random whether the nemesis has a weapon on them? Or do you have an idea? Just because you didn't write it down doesn't mean you didn't plot ahead. My point is, it is no different than any other session of D&D that would use an AP. Benign NPC's turn hostile all the time due to character actions or failed skill checks. Just because you added extra rules doesn't change that. Not everything can be plotted out. Players surprise us. But, to say you have no idea what the nemesis is now doing and how he might "possibly" appear in the future means you're just rolling random encounters. Which, for the tenth time this thread is legit. It is fun. But, many players sit down to D&D for a story. I have stated this many times in these posts. A to B to C happens. Sometimes it happens out of order, even in AP's. But if a DM is taking character motive into consideration, I bet they have an idea where B is, and C and D. It may not happen that way, but they have an idea. [/QUOTE]

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