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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8088580" data-attributes="member: 16814">Well, no, this is, in fact, a hasty generalization -- it's true that some arguments invoke fallacies, but it's not therefore true that all arguments invoke a fallacy.  You're further using this to try to excuse a poor argument by claiming that all arguments are poor.  It doesn't work.It is true that a conclusion to an argument that invokes an informal fallacy may be true, though.  What the informal fallacy does here is say that the argument made doesn't support the conclusion. No, I point them out because it means your argument is poor.  I also make sure the explain what the fallacy actually is instead of just naming a fallacy at you.  I dislike argument by fallacy, so I take care to show what in the argument fails.Asking for a video is fine.  Premising the concept the the opposing argument is flawed if it cannot produce a video to your satisfaction is the problem.  The other problem is that when people demand such exacting evidence, the stage is set for anything provided to be dismissed as not being sufficient for you to accept.  I've played that game, and I'm not doing it again.  You can look for a video if you want to see one, and good luck, but demanding I provide you with your preferred evidence is just assigning homework with the promise of a failing grade.  Not interested.  You've been pointed numerous times to video of how to run other games using these approaches, and been told that doing so will show how you can implement them, at least in limited fashion, into your D&D games because the techniques used aren't tied to the mechanics (the mechanics just make it work better).  You've already rejected this as unsuitable to your demands, and insist that you be provided with the exact format you demand to prove the argument.  This is just being a jerk -- no fallacy needed.So, start with watching Blades in the Dark Let's Play video.  Then move to using those techniques yourself in a Blades game.  Then move to using those techniques in a 5e game.  I mean, seriously, did you not foresee this trivial response to your argument?I found 4 videos in about 2 minutes.  Use quotation marks, or Google/Youtube ignores your actual search terms in favor of their algorithm slanted towards more popular terms that are similar.  IE, search 5e no prep and you're get videos on how to prep 5e.  Search 5e "no prep" and you get some different responses.I don't think a lot of people search for how to play in a way they already play.  I don't -- in fact, I've never made it through more than a few minutes of a Let's Play.  The closest I come is to watching the 1forall and Mann Shorts videos, which are both very short spoofs of games.You say you're not trying to argue, but you've refused any advice to learning that isn't the video format you demand, AND you've said that the lack of such videos shows that the style isn't mainstream, the mechanics don't support it, and the expectations don't support this kind of play.  You're hedging back to your original position in this thread based on a lack of suitable to you video evidence and you've completely ignored the wealth of advice and direction, which includes videos -- just not the ones you demand, to continue your professed desire to learn.  For someone that so professes, you've done remarkably little to advance.</blockquote>

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