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<blockquote data-quote="DarkLord Of DForce" data-source="post: 5550756" data-attributes="member: 85416"><p>Okay, just for the record, I've retrained Temple Of Brilliance and informed my DM about it.</p><p></p><p>I can not find "bag of rats", "target", "targeting", etc in the Online Compendium. I did find "legitimate targets" in the Rules Compendium, which I have. Page 108, at the bottom:</p><p></p><p>"When a power has an effect that occurs upon hitting, missing, or otherwise affecting a target, the effect takes place only if the target is a meaningful threat."</p><p></p><p>Now, for the sake of argument, lets try to dissect Temple Of Brillance:</p><p></p><p>Hit: 2d6 + Wisdom modifier Radiant damage - okay, this is not what activates the Zone, so it seems to be out.</p><p></p><p>Miss: Half damage - Right, and this isn't what activates the zone either, so it seems to be out.</p><p></p><p>Now to "Otherwise affecting a target" - and here is the catch, Temple of Brilliance's Zone does *not* affect the target: "Any enemy other than the target that ends its turn within the Zone is blinded until the end of its next turn". So it would seem to be out as well.</p><p></p><p>Now to the part that to me is highly RAI vs RAW. "the effect takes place only if the target is a meaningful threat" - Okay, since I'm the target am I a meaningful threat? To myself, certainly not, and that's RAI, IMHO. However, I certainly am a threat to any enemies on the field, and that's RAW. I say this simply because its not written: "the effect takes place only if the target is a meaningful threat TO YOU". However, I do believe that is probably what they meant.</p><p></p><p>The benefit and common sense parts of the RC seem to be concerned with anything from the power that affects your Allies in some way. Temple of Brilliance doesn't directly affect your Allies.</p><p></p><p>So...please post your opinions on my take on this, and if my logic and reasoning has failed, then politely take it apart and show where. I'm genuinely interested in what everyone thinks on this and I look forward to more stimulating conversation.</p><p></p><p>Thanks everyone! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkLord Of DForce, post: 5550756, member: 85416"] Okay, just for the record, I've retrained Temple Of Brilliance and informed my DM about it. I can not find "bag of rats", "target", "targeting", etc in the Online Compendium. I did find "legitimate targets" in the Rules Compendium, which I have. Page 108, at the bottom: "When a power has an effect that occurs upon hitting, missing, or otherwise affecting a target, the effect takes place only if the target is a meaningful threat." Now, for the sake of argument, lets try to dissect Temple Of Brillance: Hit: 2d6 + Wisdom modifier Radiant damage - okay, this is not what activates the Zone, so it seems to be out. Miss: Half damage - Right, and this isn't what activates the zone either, so it seems to be out. Now to "Otherwise affecting a target" - and here is the catch, Temple of Brilliance's Zone does *not* affect the target: "Any enemy other than the target that ends its turn within the Zone is blinded until the end of its next turn". So it would seem to be out as well. Now to the part that to me is highly RAI vs RAW. "the effect takes place only if the target is a meaningful threat" - Okay, since I'm the target am I a meaningful threat? To myself, certainly not, and that's RAI, IMHO. However, I certainly am a threat to any enemies on the field, and that's RAW. I say this simply because its not written: "the effect takes place only if the target is a meaningful threat TO YOU". However, I do believe that is probably what they meant. The benefit and common sense parts of the RC seem to be concerned with anything from the power that affects your Allies in some way. Temple of Brilliance doesn't directly affect your Allies. So...please post your opinions on my take on this, and if my logic and reasoning has failed, then politely take it apart and show where. I'm genuinely interested in what everyone thinks on this and I look forward to more stimulating conversation. Thanks everyone! :) [/QUOTE]
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