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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5043315" data-attributes="member: 80487">What is your source for this definition? &quot;There's no such thing as a real sandbox game&quot; does not seem a sound basis, when it is very clear that the reason people started using the term in the first place was in order to talk about real games. What this really looks like is a straw man, a rhetorical attempt to take someone else's language and misrepresent someone else's position -- and perhaps it managed to trick you.Common sense suggests to me that if it cannot really exist, then it is in fact not what people have been talking about.In particular, I have never, ever encountered the second claim. There is no game necessity for running some kind of simulation-model of every acre and creature in the world. As you observe, Where computer games really fall down is in accommodating unanticipated things. Any option is closed unless it is somehow incorporated into the program ahead of time.That is the great advantage of human moderation! A Game Master possesses a vast knowledge base from real-life experience, and the ability quickly to extrapolate from known facts via the power of imagination.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5043315, member: 80487"] What is your source for this definition? "There's no such thing as a real sandbox game" does not seem a sound basis, when it is very clear that the reason people started using the term in the first place was in order to talk about real games. What this really looks like is a straw man, a rhetorical attempt to take someone else's language and misrepresent someone else's position -- and perhaps it managed to trick you. Common sense suggests to me that if it cannot really exist, then it is in fact not what people have been talking about. In particular, I have never, ever encountered the second claim. There is no game necessity for running some kind of simulation-model of every acre and creature in the world. As you observe, Where computer games [i]really[/i] fall down is in accommodating unanticipated things. Any option is closed unless it is somehow incorporated into the program ahead of time. That is the great advantage of human moderation! A Game Master possesses a vast knowledge base from real-life experience, and the ability quickly to extrapolate from known facts via the power of imagination. [/QUOTE]

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