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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wolvorine" data-source="post: 381549" data-attributes="member: 1330">Ahh, here's the problem.  It wasn't a 'i know better' ignorant white-belt question or anything. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  I was a white belt yes, but not an ignorant one.  *grins*  I'm just very self-aware, I know my body's natural positioning when I throw a punch (which is a fair match for technically proper).  I actually did end up doing them 'right' (along with my partner, a green belt in Wadu Ryu some years back), and afterward she was apparently obliged to admit that they were correct, solid, and effective.  I think the real problem was that they were crap teachers.  It's very possible that they did want them done right, but didn't have the teaching chops to instruct someone how to do them right.  Fairly often my little white-belt self made corrections to the other students (who'd been there longer), because the teacher had left the room for about 20 minutes, and they weren't doing their form right, or didn't understand what the form was intended to simulate (and thus couldn't grasp how to get it right).Oh lord no, wild punches are for goofing off, if then.  You just have far, far too small a chance of even hitting a target with a wild punch, it's just silly.  I think, when it all comes down to it, my arguement (although I couldn't have put it in this light at the time) was basically that they were bad teachers.  She showed the punch, and it was sloppy, half-hearted, and she couldn't have blocked a tuna thrown from 20 feet while she was doing it.  And so the class started emulating this silly, ineffective punch that was entirely worried about if their stance was properly diagonal, heels set, stop-paused throughout, with no blocking hand in ready throughout the punch, etc.  I just kind of refused to do it badly.Oh I agree here.  An ignorant beginning white belt is more often than not little more than a smart-ass who can't stop from continually displaying what he doesn't know.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  By the time I ever got into a class, I had a fair idea of what I was doing.  I wouldn't ever infer 'I know all', but I know when a lower-rank move's done wrong. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Yeah, basically.  In actual use, your 'pretty factor' has a strong tendancy to get a bit lax, you're putting the form to it's actual use, not worrying if sensei will walk over and tell you your shoulder was slightly off-center, or yout stance was slightly off, or you didn't kia at the right point.  I guess it's which you're focus is on, utilizing the form, or making sure you do it textbook.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />((edited multiple times for far too many little goofs))</blockquote>

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