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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wolvorine" data-source="post: 381909" data-attributes="member: 1330">Not to sound snippy here or anything, but this is the second time you've responded to someone (at least it has seemed this way to me) and purposefully misinterpreted their meaning and intention in order to tell them how ashamed of themselves they should be.  If I'm misinterpreting where you're coming from, then I of course apologize.  As far as bowing and walking away, I simply do not have the luxury or living a fully zen lifestyle.  We'd paid our fees in advance, non-refundable as was required by the school (as I recall), and it is/was the only school in town that taught the style (or even a style vaguely similar) we wanted to study.  With that on top of my daughters adoration of the place...  we stuck it out there for as long as we could.  Perhaps this is deplorable, I view it as realistic.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And, I did address the matter of antagonism and being a prig earlier, bt mentioning that the question was asked in earnest at the time.I never interfered with the sensei.  I did, however, tend to ask a lot of questions, as a serious student should.  This was one of them.  It wasn't the first, it wasn't the last.  But then again, my heart just doesn't feel for people who, after 3+ months, still couldn't remember my name correctly on a day-to-day basis out of a class of less than 15 people.  If you meant in reference to my mention of helping and correcting other students, yeah I did that once in a while.  Granted I did it for the blue/green/brown/black belts about as often as the white belts.  And granted, I was able to do this not because I am some form of martial arts savant, but because I understood what I was seeing when the main sensei showed it, and I watched more closely than the others.  So, when he left the class for too long (how long is too long?  Too long is when the entire class is starting to get upset that he's been gone too long) I helped when I was asked, or when somone looked like they were progressively not getting it.  When the sensei DID return, I always asked him to go to those people and see if they had gotten it right or not, because they'd been struggling.As for the form, it was a series of stepping lunge punches.  Just a cardio workout combined with repetition-training.  Really basic stuff there, not a lot of hidden sub-text.  And I've seen the woman spar, if there were any hidden reasons for how she was doing it, they weren't helping. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />Peoples is strange, I rarely learn much until I've dissected something, and satisfied myself that I understand the concept.  *nods*  In pretty much all of your responses, this is the basic idea I've gotten from you.  For my part, people were posting amusing antecdotes, so I added mine.  That was about it for the trying-to-prove-my-manhood thing.Again, you're just playing semantic games here, it seems.  Again, I could be wrong, but this just sounds like a touch of pseudo circular reasoning with a dash of intended misunderstanding.  But, as much as the limelight is cute and all, I really don't think the silly story warrented so much attention.</blockquote>

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