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<blockquote data-quote="Wolvorine" data-source="post: 383396" data-attributes="member: 1330"><p>Okay, the part I find funny at the moment is that I would swear that was my attitude about the situation in my anecdote. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I actually do grasp your point here, I think, and I agree with it overall. In his (or her) dojo,the sensei should never be open to such behavior. There should be respect for his knowledge. But some people tend to erode the respect you attempt to afford them of their own volition. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And <strong>this</strong>, I can live with, and even work with. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The class (not that one specific, but in general) was something the entire family had been wanting to do for a long time, and it had much built-up exited hype for her, and the senseis' (is that even a proper plural?) kids had a playstation in the waiting room. And, the one credit I always gave that teacher was he was pretty good with kids.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, that is a rather large roadblock in between our POVs. My own opinion says that a student who doesn't ask questions is not interested enough to be driven to ask if he is doing something right, or has made an oversight. Even if it's no more than "Like this?"</p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, piffle. I thought I had quoted something you'd said right before that... I honestly don't recall off the top of my head.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ahh, there it is, that's the crossed wire. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Okay, I'm not argueing that a textbook form is inferior in a real-world danger situation than ...some nebulous thing called "useful" or "efficient". It was a lunge punch (just so I don't end up using the word 'form' to mean too many different things), but what I meaning to say there is that it's not the punch, it's 'where is the focus of your attention'. In this case, are you thinking about the punch as some form of dance step you have to get as close to perfect every time -- 1-2-3-4-KAI! (to oversimplify, granted) -- or are you practising the punch as if it were a punch, taking the punch's force, your balance, whether you would have just hit what you were aiming at, etc. Dance or Punch? I guess that's my question. To me, it's a punch, and if I'm going to drill punches, I'm bloody well going to drill punches, not dance steps. Does that make more logical sense to you?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolvorine, post: 383396, member: 1330"] Okay, the part I find funny at the moment is that I would swear that was my attitude about the situation in my anecdote. :D [B][/B] I actually do grasp your point here, I think, and I agree with it overall. In his (or her) dojo,the sensei should never be open to such behavior. There should be respect for his knowledge. But some people tend to erode the respect you attempt to afford them of their own volition. [B][/B] And [b]this[/b], I can live with, and even work with. :) [B][/B] The class (not that one specific, but in general) was something the entire family had been wanting to do for a long time, and it had much built-up exited hype for her, and the senseis' (is that even a proper plural?) kids had a playstation in the waiting room. And, the one credit I always gave that teacher was he was pretty good with kids. [B][/B] Yeah, that is a rather large roadblock in between our POVs. My own opinion says that a student who doesn't ask questions is not interested enough to be driven to ask if he is doing something right, or has made an oversight. Even if it's no more than "Like this?" [B][/B] Oh, piffle. I thought I had quoted something you'd said right before that... I honestly don't recall off the top of my head. [B][/B] Ahh, there it is, that's the crossed wire. :) Okay, I'm not argueing that a textbook form is inferior in a real-world danger situation than ...some nebulous thing called "useful" or "efficient". It was a lunge punch (just so I don't end up using the word 'form' to mean too many different things), but what I meaning to say there is that it's not the punch, it's 'where is the focus of your attention'. In this case, are you thinking about the punch as some form of dance step you have to get as close to perfect every time -- 1-2-3-4-KAI! (to oversimplify, granted) -- or are you practising the punch as if it were a punch, taking the punch's force, your balance, whether you would have just hit what you were aiming at, etc. Dance or Punch? I guess that's my question. To me, it's a punch, and if I'm going to drill punches, I'm bloody well going to drill punches, not dance steps. Does that make more logical sense to you? [/QUOTE]
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