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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 385790" data-attributes="member: 5171">In regards to self-defense and the military:  My understanding was that the armed forces really didn't give you a ton of street-practical self-defense training.Before I am publically flogged, allow me to mutter semantics:My understanding was that:1) The armed forces emphasized offense rather than defense -- as in, getting in close and killing people before they were aware or could raise an alarm.2) The armed forces emphasized fighting with available weaponry and equipment -- meaning that you get VERY GOOD with a knife and several different kinds of guns, and working in heavy gear and bulletproof vests and other stuff that you aren't likely to be wearing when attacked on the street.3) The armed forces emphasized quick-and-dirty kills, which is great from a military perspective, but not so great from a position where you might not want to kill your attacker (either for fear of prosecution or because it's not a death-worthy attack they're making)Please, no offense is intended.  If a infantryman (who's been keeping up on his hand-to-hand drills) and a martial artist (from a street-defense school) with ten years of experience apiece are walking down a dark street when bad guys jump out at them with mischief on their minds, I figure both of them are going to account well for themselves.  The infantryman is liable to be in better shape, given how it's his JOB to be in great shape, while the martial artist might have more options in terms of killing, stunning, or just embarrassing the attackers.If the infantryman has his knife and sidearm, the bad guys will be dead very quickly, and the martial artist should make sure not to get in the way.If legal issues are likely to arise (ie, there was trash talking and the defenders aren't paragons of moral virtue and they could be charged with manslaughter rather than getting self-defense), the martial artist could have an edge.If the martial artist is from a good school and the infantryman has been training well, they're both tough, able to take a hit, aware enough to use their environment, and capable of breaking jaws right and left.-Tacky</blockquote>

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