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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 386231" data-attributes="member: 5171">Cool!  Thanks for the info.  I was basing my info off of something a former Navy SEAL said, so possibly it's apples and oranges.Okay, here's a broad question:My style (A derivation of Ed Parker's American Kenpo) has a whole bunch of katas (sets, forms, etc.).  Some of them are obviously your basic training deal -- two inward blocks, two upwards, two outwards, two downward, and bow.  Others use techniques from different belt levels -- there's a kata made out of the techniques for second-degree black belt, for instance, with some modifications to the techniques.And then, there are the odd ones.  These guys are more than just basics, but not technique katas.  One of them, Book Set, was made (I was told) in the 50's or 60's by Ed Parker when he wanted to show one of his students something.  The other, "Tiger and Crane", is said to be really, really old.I've seen "Tiger and Crane" done in a few other styles, actually, which was kind of neat -- a sort of shared tradition that was fun to see.  I was wondering if anyone here has a "Tiger and Crane" kata in their style?I'm trying to think of differentiating features of the kata, things that make it different -- because perhaps you have it under a different name.  But it could also be changed to the point where none of these really work:There are two parts in the kata where you do a pair of double-reverse crescent kicks (spinning around and leaping as you kick).  Meaning, there are two parts in the kata where you go "Spin, kick-kick, land, spin, kick-kick, land."  In both cases, at my school, we end up in a kind of twisted stance doing a high block.It starts off standing. First you do a downward palm-parry with one arm, then block out and then back down, and then swing your arm out across your face with the palm out.  Then three palm strikes to the front, strike to your belt with the heel of your hand (as though to break a belt grab), four-finger eye strike, and rake.  Then you do that with the other hand.  Then you go into a training stance (square horse, whatever) and do something sort of like that, but with both hands at once.-- Crane-beak strike: four fingers curled so that they form a square, thumb bracing them -- usually, the hand is bent at the wrist to allow hooking and striking. --There's a section of the kata that does a lot of crane-beak strikes.  You start out in a cat stance doing a couple, then go onto the other side, and then end up in a crane stance doing a bunch in the air, and finish by coming down and using your last strike to hook someone as you step down.Just curious.  I probably am not describing it well enough for anyone to get a good picture.-Tacky</blockquote>

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