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Message: <blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 9848561" data-attributes="member: 90374"><p>Yeah, I dont really get folks thinking PF2 is equal to or even more complicated than PF1. I think the denseness of the ruleset and reputation of PF1 give a false lead into the PF2 is complicated idea. At launch it was obvious that PF1 had tons more content, but PF2 is now 6-7 years old and catching up. A lot of the difference is in the execution and character building within. PF2 has a lot of choices at level 1, but then is funneled into fewer choices at level up. PF1 is a maze of possibilities that both engages folks and drives them away from the sheer amount of reading and knowledge required. Conditions are numerous in both, but PF2 for example, with its universal system, is easy to adjudicate. PF1 requires changing ability stat numbers and recalculating all sorts of checks for any given PC. Far more examples like the CR system alone can give you a good indication of how much light is between them in complexity.</p></blockquote><p></p>