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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stonehead" data-source="post: 9848629" data-attributes="member: 7047885">A rule you can sometimes ignore is a good example of early game complexity though, which is all [USER=7031017]@SpellObjectEnthusiast[/USER] was saying.Pathfinder 1 also has <a href="https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/spellbreaker-combat/" target="_blank">numerous options</a> that change what does and does not trigger an attack of opportunity.[HR][/HR]Either way, trying to convince someone what they find hard to learn doesn't seem like a very fruitful discussion. My players found 2E easier to learn, and no amount of internet arguing will convince me that no actually they didn't. Similarly, I can accept that different people are different, and P2E is actually hard to learn for certain types of people.Edit: This got me thinking how interesting it would be to try to scientifically compare the two. Get some new players who have no experience with 3e, 3.5, P1, or P2, show them Archives of Nethys and d20pfsrd with no other videos or instructions, and see which takes them longer to build a character in. Maybe even run a combat, and count how long the turns take or something. Way more effort than I'm ever going to put into it, but it's kinda fun to think about.</blockquote>