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Do you think 5e is deadly enough and do you finish off downed characters?
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8414053" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>I don't think combat is too easy. I think DMs in general don't fight most monsters as well as they can. I know this is true for me when I DM and I know it is true with other DMs I have played when I think things like<em> "I hope that Vampire doesn't try to charm me because my wisdom save sucks" </em> then he goes the whole battle without charming me while I sneak attack him every turn.</p><p></p><p>I think the reason why is most players are very good at playing their characters in combat and DMs both have less experience playing monsters and less familiarity with their player abilities. Players understand their own abilities and aside from putting thought into picking them, players also learn from experience as their characters develop. This is especially true if you have extensive experience with a particular class. For example when I am playing a Rogue or a Bladesinger I rarely make mistakes because I have played so many of those characters I have seen what works and what doesn't. I have bad turns, but it is not usually because I forgot something better I could have done. It is usually do to the dice or the situation did not give me a lot of great options (my Rogue is poisoned and out in the open with nowhere to hide). As a player, put me in charge of another player's Barbarian in combat because he could not make the session today and I am making all kinds of stupid mistakes. That is the kind of thing a DM is trying to do all the time.</p><p></p><p>As a DM it is a lot to keep track of and with complicated monsters unless you have fought with them a lot you find you forget about abilities or you go in with a plan, but it turns out is not a great plan because you forgot Jim is immune to whatever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8414053, member: 7030563"] I don't think combat is too easy. I think DMs in general don't fight most monsters as well as they can. I know this is true for me when I DM and I know it is true with other DMs I have played when I think things like[I] "I hope that Vampire doesn't try to charm me because my wisdom save sucks" [/I] then he goes the whole battle without charming me while I sneak attack him every turn. I think the reason why is most players are very good at playing their characters in combat and DMs both have less experience playing monsters and less familiarity with their player abilities. Players understand their own abilities and aside from putting thought into picking them, players also learn from experience as their characters develop. This is especially true if you have extensive experience with a particular class. For example when I am playing a Rogue or a Bladesinger I rarely make mistakes because I have played so many of those characters I have seen what works and what doesn't. I have bad turns, but it is not usually because I forgot something better I could have done. It is usually do to the dice or the situation did not give me a lot of great options (my Rogue is poisoned and out in the open with nowhere to hide). As a player, put me in charge of another player's Barbarian in combat because he could not make the session today and I am making all kinds of stupid mistakes. That is the kind of thing a DM is trying to do all the time. As a DM it is a lot to keep track of and with complicated monsters unless you have fought with them a lot you find you forget about abilities or you go in with a plan, but it turns out is not a great plan because you forgot Jim is immune to whatever. [/QUOTE]
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