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<blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 9439000" data-attributes="member: 90374"><p>I think the above highlights the second trap of the Terminator series. In that each following film has to have a bigger, scarier, terminator threat. Arnold is the face of the brand, but obviously he keeps coming back. Though, at 75 years old I doubt he will be back again. So, thats why you keep getting these new human hybrid stand ins, adding the second trap issue to protagonist characters as well.</p><p></p><p>The first real trap though is that Sarah and John Conner are of utmost importance and the future cant be rewritten, but is actually fate. Despite the third film essentially recycling all the action sequences and second trap adherence of T2, it was a decent wrap up of the trilogy stating as much. The franchise has struggled somewhere between reboot and sidestepping, until Dark Fate where they went full blown Last Jedi on the franchise. They essentially unbuckled the franchise from John Conner while also keeping Arnold and Hamilton. Which blurs the line between holding fast to the franchise, and busting loose for future story potential. </p><p></p><p>My opinion is that you have a franchise mainline and a surrounding universe. This would be Sarah and John Conner with the T800 locked into a fate loop, then you have terminator stories in the past, present, and future that are adjacent to the main line. They eventually did this with Star Wars, but as you can see with the polar experiences with Last Jedi, the main line is no place to eff around and find out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="payn, post: 9439000, member: 90374"] I think the above highlights the second trap of the Terminator series. In that each following film has to have a bigger, scarier, terminator threat. Arnold is the face of the brand, but obviously he keeps coming back. Though, at 75 years old I doubt he will be back again. So, thats why you keep getting these new human hybrid stand ins, adding the second trap issue to protagonist characters as well. The first real trap though is that Sarah and John Conner are of utmost importance and the future cant be rewritten, but is actually fate. Despite the third film essentially recycling all the action sequences and second trap adherence of T2, it was a decent wrap up of the trilogy stating as much. The franchise has struggled somewhere between reboot and sidestepping, until Dark Fate where they went full blown Last Jedi on the franchise. They essentially unbuckled the franchise from John Conner while also keeping Arnold and Hamilton. Which blurs the line between holding fast to the franchise, and busting loose for future story potential. My opinion is that you have a franchise mainline and a surrounding universe. This would be Sarah and John Conner with the T800 locked into a fate loop, then you have terminator stories in the past, present, and future that are adjacent to the main line. They eventually did this with Star Wars, but as you can see with the polar experiences with Last Jedi, the main line is no place to eff around and find out. [/QUOTE]
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