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<blockquote data-quote="Madfox" data-source="post: 493639" data-attributes="member: 1714"><p>Granted, I have not much experience with high level campaigns or even a high variety of low level campaigns. I do know that of all the wizards and sorcerers in my campaigns I have seen only one take haste as his first choice spell. It is a good spell, but at low levels it is a bit borring in the hands of a sorcerer. The wizard in my current campaign only tends to prepare one haste spell, but that might be because he also wants to prepare slow (ever met trolls or girralons and you know why you always want slow prepared <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ), dispel magic and lightning bolt. None of the players ever considered buying hasted items, except perhaps a potion. Whether they do it because they care about balance on a subconscious level or not is unknown to me.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, I do agree the spell is good. It probably is too good for a sorcerer at 3rd lvl, which is why I like Monte Cook's sorcerer. Monte Cook realized some spells are too good in the hands of a sorcerer while in the hands of a wizard they are reasonable. Shield is another such example. He raised them one level for the sorcerer. The problem is that this is based on a feeling and not on actual experience. Haste has yet to dominate my games.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Madfox, post: 493639, member: 1714"] Granted, I have not much experience with high level campaigns or even a high variety of low level campaigns. I do know that of all the wizards and sorcerers in my campaigns I have seen only one take haste as his first choice spell. It is a good spell, but at low levels it is a bit borring in the hands of a sorcerer. The wizard in my current campaign only tends to prepare one haste spell, but that might be because he also wants to prepare slow (ever met trolls or girralons and you know why you always want slow prepared ;) ), dispel magic and lightning bolt. None of the players ever considered buying hasted items, except perhaps a potion. Whether they do it because they care about balance on a subconscious level or not is unknown to me. Having said that, I do agree the spell is good. It probably is too good for a sorcerer at 3rd lvl, which is why I like Monte Cook's sorcerer. Monte Cook realized some spells are too good in the hands of a sorcerer while in the hands of a wizard they are reasonable. Shield is another such example. He raised them one level for the sorcerer. The problem is that this is based on a feeling and not on actual experience. Haste has yet to dominate my games. [/QUOTE]
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