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<blockquote data-quote="Simulacrum" data-source="post: 545021" data-attributes="member: 7749"><p>Just to clean up some myths:</p><p>-</p><p>Wizards are the dominating class in D&D and especialy in FR.</p><p>Haha, yeah if you let them be then it is quite possible, but you can say that to any class if you let them be.</p><p>Truth is that in a fair game, managed by a competent DM with equal PC's made with the Piont buy System, Wizards are NOT the dominating class. Fighters and Divine Casters are. Wizards who are not at least in the higher mid levels are highly screwed when it gets hairy, not to say incompetent to cope with nearly 90% of the things you can throw at them (not just monsters). Haste or not they are just too weak and their choices are too limited.</p><p>In FR spellcasters are just more common as in other campaigns but not really that more potent. Even the most powerful PrC's do have some serious drawbacks built in. (like the Red Wiz)</p><p>In 3e Wizards are doomed to stay in the last ranks or they will get crushed, even more than in 2e were wizard classes did RULE the system.</p><p>-</p><p>Haste or not there is nothing more heart warming then to see the wizard players sweat tears and blood knowing the enemy fighter or cleric or monster npc with his adamantine smackstick comming at them with that crunchy antimagic shell on. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Simulacrum, post: 545021, member: 7749"] Just to clean up some myths: - Wizards are the dominating class in D&D and especialy in FR. Haha, yeah if you let them be then it is quite possible, but you can say that to any class if you let them be. Truth is that in a fair game, managed by a competent DM with equal PC's made with the Piont buy System, Wizards are NOT the dominating class. Fighters and Divine Casters are. Wizards who are not at least in the higher mid levels are highly screwed when it gets hairy, not to say incompetent to cope with nearly 90% of the things you can throw at them (not just monsters). Haste or not they are just too weak and their choices are too limited. In FR spellcasters are just more common as in other campaigns but not really that more potent. Even the most powerful PrC's do have some serious drawbacks built in. (like the Red Wiz) In 3e Wizards are doomed to stay in the last ranks or they will get crushed, even more than in 2e were wizard classes did RULE the system. - Haste or not there is nothing more heart warming then to see the wizard players sweat tears and blood knowing the enemy fighter or cleric or monster npc with his adamantine smackstick comming at them with that crunchy antimagic shell on. :) [/QUOTE]
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