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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 565975" data-attributes="member: 1134">Re: Re: Re: My opinionThe problem is when you limit it to the big fights, your reasoning would knock out virtually every buff in the game.  What big fight is entered without stat buffs, any fighting cleric who gets the chance will cast divne power, or divine might, the very nature of buffs make you more effective, so they will always be cast for a big fight.  The short duraiton ones(rounds or minutes)are usually  a bit more powerful and therefore are almost always cast at the begining of any big fight.  Basically my point is if you don't look at all fight encoutners,and instead just look at the big ones as your point of refernce to see if certain spells are overcast and therefore too good virtually every buff spell in the game that isn't superceeded by a beter version will be too good, and the ones that are superceeded will be too good until they are superceeded.And personally I think people underate what a partial action means to a fighter.  Yeah it can always mean an extra spell for a spellcaster which is a big boost.  But being able to partial charge and then full attack in the 1st round is easilt as big of a boost for the fighters, after you are in posistion and just hacking away the utility of an extra partial aciton drops, but anytime the fighter needs to move an extra partial aciton is of incredible use.And yes spells that effect the number of aciotns you can take are masively powerufl(hence why I think slow is even more potent than haste until its low level save modifier makes the save easy) which is why I am not disagreeing with your conclusion, jsut your methods to reach said conclusion.</blockquote>

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