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<blockquote data-quote="Creampuff" data-source="post: 566624" data-attributes="member: 9583">For me, the jury is still out on whether or not haste is too powerful.&nbsp; A few thoughts:If you took a 5th level wizard with a 15 intellegence, and haste and fireball are his two 3rd level spells, and a 5th level barbarian of equal ability and started them 20 feet apart and ran this combat lots of times,&nbsp; I would argue the barbarian would win more often than not.&nbsp; If anything, haste is at best an equalizer in this situation.I disagree with the argument that enemies preparing for haste with slow and dispel magics is metagaming.&nbsp; Do PCs use haste a lot?&nbsp; Absolutly.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because they are smart.&nbsp; Should enemies use haste frequently along with having slows and dispel magics?&nbsp; Absolutly.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because they are smart and have been around al least as long as the PCs, and thus know the tactical advantages of such spells.&nbsp; Unless you as a DM prefer ignorant, incompetent oponents to challange your PCs, having them prepare for the best possible fight is not metagaming, its being a good DM.I am not sure if the 'if everyone uses it, it must be too powerful' argument is a valid point or not.&nbsp; But I think that a modified haste that only allows an extra move equivelent action and a +2 dodge bonus would make haste an underbalanced spell.Just a few thoughts.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Creampuff, post: 566624, member: 9583"] For me, the jury is still out on whether or not haste is too powerful. A few thoughts: If you took a 5th level wizard with a 15 intellegence, and haste and fireball are his two 3rd level spells, and a 5th level barbarian of equal ability and started them 20 feet apart and ran this combat lots of times, I would argue the barbarian would win more often than not. If anything, haste is at best an equalizer in this situation. I disagree with the argument that enemies preparing for haste with slow and dispel magics is metagaming. Do PCs use haste a lot? Absolutly. Why? Because they are smart. Should enemies use haste frequently along with having slows and dispel magics? Absolutly. Why? Because they are smart and have been around al least as long as the PCs, and thus know the tactical advantages of such spells. Unless you as a DM prefer ignorant, incompetent oponents to challange your PCs, having them prepare for the best possible fight is not metagaming, its being a good DM. I am not sure if the 'if everyone uses it, it must be too powerful' argument is a valid point or not. But I think that a modified haste that only allows an extra move equivelent action and a +2 dodge bonus would make haste an underbalanced spell. Just a few thoughts. [/QUOTE]

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