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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 6220085" data-attributes="member: 7808">I think that American standards for tipping have become atrocious.&nbsp; It's disingenuous of&nbsp; any establishment to post prices that are significantly below what people are expected to actually pay, and it's cruel to force workers to essentially beg customers for their wages.&nbsp; However, I also recognize that the root cause of this is not the fault of the workers, the employers, or the tippers; it's the inevitable outcome of allowing the minimum tipped wage to fall so low that it's practically non-existent.&nbsp; But that's a political rant that doesn't belong on this board.&nbsp; Since I recognize that my distaste with the practice of tipping is political rather than personal, I also recognize that denying someone a majority of their wage by refusing them a tip would be punishing someone with absolutely no control over the situation, and would do nothing to help change the way things are.So I tip, and I tip reasonably well.&nbsp; Over the last few years, I generally find that the amount I tip is based more on my behavior than a server's.&nbsp; Anyone who waits on my family with two kids under 4 is going to get a better percentage than the guy who waits on me when I'm traveling by myself for work, regardless of the quality of the meal.&nbsp; I also make an effort to tip in cash, even if I pay with the meal by credit card.&nbsp; And any time I'm comped something, half of the price of the item is automatically added to the tip.Since I recognize that tips are a majority of the workers wage, I strongly look down upon those that don't tip because they have a religious or political disagreement with a server.&nbsp; It doesn't matter if you have a personal beef with someone; they provided a service and you're expected to pay for it.&nbsp; Furthermore, I think that anyone who has plans on denying a tip to a server should be required to state so up front.&nbsp; If you think that's acceptable behavior, be honest about it, and stand up for yourself.&nbsp; Hiding behind a passive aggressive note shows that you know it's wrong, and that you're ashamed of yourself.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 6220085, member: 7808"] I think that American standards for tipping have become atrocious. It's disingenuous of any establishment to post prices that are significantly below what people are expected to actually pay, and it's cruel to force workers to essentially beg customers for their wages. However, I also recognize that the root cause of this is not the fault of the workers, the employers, or the tippers; it's the inevitable outcome of allowing the minimum tipped wage to fall so low that it's practically non-existent. But that's a political rant that doesn't belong on this board. Since I recognize that my distaste with the practice of tipping is political rather than personal, I also recognize that denying someone a majority of their wage by refusing them a tip would be punishing someone with absolutely no control over the situation, and would do nothing to help change the way things are. So I tip, and I tip reasonably well. Over the last few years, I generally find that the amount I tip is based more on my behavior than a server's. Anyone who waits on my family with two kids under 4 is going to get a better percentage than the guy who waits on me when I'm traveling by myself for work, regardless of the quality of the meal. I also make an effort to tip in cash, even if I pay with the meal by credit card. And any time I'm comped something, half of the price of the item is automatically added to the tip. Since I recognize that tips are a majority of the workers wage, I strongly look down upon those that don't tip because they have a religious or political disagreement with a server. It doesn't matter if you have a personal beef with someone; they provided a service and you're expected to pay for it. Furthermore, I think that anyone who has plans on denying a tip to a server should be required to state so up front. If you think that's acceptable behavior, be honest about it, and stand up for yourself. Hiding behind a passive aggressive note shows that you know it's wrong, and that you're ashamed of yourself. [/QUOTE]

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