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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 6220135" data-attributes="member: 85555">The issue is, you were a kid working at a pizza shop. The cooks may also have been underpaid, but that isn't the fault of the wait staff. There are men and women raising families and paying bills working as servers. The minimum wage for servers varies by state, but here in Mass it is 2.63, which is not a living wage. People absolutley rely on tips to pay the bills. How much you make once tips are factored in varies from restaurant to restaurant. You might average 12-13 an hour at a descent restaurant (could be considerably higher at a really great one) or you could barely be scraping by if the restaurant doesn't get a lot of traffic. In Mass, 12-13 an hour still doesn't go very far if you have a family. I think it is just common decency, we all know these peoplecget paid below minimum wage without tips, so you factor in tipping as a cost offgoing out to eat. If you are truly unhappy with your service, you certainly do not have to tip, but too often i see people blaming servers for things that are outside their control, so they end up paying for other peoples' mistakes. Generally i think its a better course of action to complain to the dining room manager if you are unhappy with your service. I used to be a dining room manager and one of the things they paid me to do was identify the causes of the type of experience you described, so going to the dining room manager will usually help ensure your next experience is better---plus a restaurant that values its reputation will give you a complimentary meal or reduce your bill.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 6220135, member: 85555"] The issue is, you were a kid working at a pizza shop. The cooks may also have been underpaid, but that isn't the fault of the wait staff. There are men and women raising families and paying bills working as servers. The minimum wage for servers varies by state, but here in Mass it is 2.63, which is not a living wage. People absolutley rely on tips to pay the bills. How much you make once tips are factored in varies from restaurant to restaurant. You might average 12-13 an hour at a descent restaurant (could be considerably higher at a really great one) or you could barely be scraping by if the restaurant doesn't get a lot of traffic. In Mass, 12-13 an hour still doesn't go very far if you have a family. I think it is just common decency, we all know these peoplecget paid below minimum wage without tips, so you factor in tipping as a cost offgoing out to eat. If you are truly unhappy with your service, you certainly do not have to tip, but too often i see people blaming servers for things that are outside their control, so they end up paying for other peoples' mistakes. Generally i think its a better course of action to complain to the dining room manager if you are unhappy with your service. I used to be a dining room manager and one of the things they paid me to do was identify the causes of the type of experience you described, so going to the dining room manager will usually help ensure your next experience is better---plus a restaurant that values its reputation will give you a complimentary meal or reduce your bill. [/QUOTE]

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