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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 6220190" data-attributes="member: 85555">i hope my reference to commission wasn't perceived as a knock on sales people. My father was a sales man, still is in fact, and I have very high regard for the occupation. I also think the way commission works, though brutal sometimes, is okay because people know you have to make sales going into it. You need the talent and skills, plus you have to work hard, but you can earn good money in sales and sales doesn't care what degree you have or where you come from. People with or without college background can get into and make a living based off their performance. Still it isn't for everyone. My dad did well, but even he had some rough years early on, and rough years on commission can be a real struggle. But the expectations for commission jobs are different from waitress jobs. With waitressing you expect to make some decent money if you work hard and do well, but you still expect that tips average out to minimum wage on bad days. With sales it is more extreme. You might make zero or close to it if you dont get sales, but you can make a lot more money than a server can if you do really well. My feeling is, servers count on tips, and it is just common decency to pay them. You don't have to. No on can make you, but you ought to pay some minimum amount. And if the server does really well, then pay them a bit more. I think if you are truly upset with the service it is much better to complain to the manager.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 6220190, member: 85555"] i hope my reference to commission wasn't perceived as a knock on sales people. My father was a sales man, still is in fact, and I have very high regard for the occupation. I also think the way commission works, though brutal sometimes, is okay because people know you have to make sales going into it. You need the talent and skills, plus you have to work hard, but you can earn good money in sales and sales doesn't care what degree you have or where you come from. People with or without college background can get into and make a living based off their performance. Still it isn't for everyone. My dad did well, but even he had some rough years early on, and rough years on commission can be a real struggle. But the expectations for commission jobs are different from waitress jobs. With waitressing you expect to make some decent money if you work hard and do well, but you still expect that tips average out to minimum wage on bad days. With sales it is more extreme. You might make zero or close to it if you dont get sales, but you can make a lot more money than a server can if you do really well. My feeling is, servers count on tips, and it is just common decency to pay them. You don't have to. No on can make you, but you ought to pay some minimum amount. And if the server does really well, then pay them a bit more. I think if you are truly upset with the service it is much better to complain to the manager. [/QUOTE]

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