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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 6258569" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya.</p><p></p><p>*sigh*</p><p></p><p> No. Just...no. I really have pretty much given up on the hopes of 5e being even a remotely playable game for me and my group. I'd already have to take away more than I'd have to add...so...well...uh...yeah. Pass.</p><p></p><p> That spell, I predict, will end up causing many a game-group fight at the table. If a DM allows it, the players will learn to be pampered little princesses who can do no wrong and will never "lose". If a DM disallows it, the player who's character dies because it wasn't available will cry bloody murder for the DM being "unfair and out to get the PC's".</p><p></p><p> Over time, DM's that disallow it will get the "killer DM" rep and less and less players will want to play with such a DM and/or the DM's group who like it that way. The so called "killer DM" will be looked down upon as a somehow inferior or otherwise lesser DM by the growing community of princess-players. This pampered-player-character slant will creep into supplements and adventures...with the default idea that character death is 'rare'. Eventually, 5e will start to stagnate, much like 4e, because it didn't try and maintain customer satisfaction, instead going for the quick-buck. In the end, the suits will sink to their knees, thrust their open arms outward and cast their gaze to the heavens and cry "Dear Gods! Why?! We don't understand! We gave everything, and still you, oh fickle deities of commerce, shun us! Why...?!?...". With the final exhale of their breath they will sit. Dejected. Arms at side, head hanging low, and their tears will drown the world in sorrow...</p><p></p><p> Or something like that anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>EDIT: Wow. Just re-read that. Hmmm...yeah, I think I'm definitely in the "old grognard camp". The good thing about the old grognard camp (that's "O.G.C (tm)" for short) is that we're mostly harmless old coots sitting on the front porch listening to our phonographs and yelling for all the kids to get off our lawn. Don't worry, kids, we'll be dead soon and you can take over our spot in a few years... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </em></p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 6258569, member: 45197"] Hiya. *sigh* No. Just...no. I really have pretty much given up on the hopes of 5e being even a remotely playable game for me and my group. I'd already have to take away more than I'd have to add...so...well...uh...yeah. Pass. That spell, I predict, will end up causing many a game-group fight at the table. If a DM allows it, the players will learn to be pampered little princesses who can do no wrong and will never "lose". If a DM disallows it, the player who's character dies because it wasn't available will cry bloody murder for the DM being "unfair and out to get the PC's". Over time, DM's that disallow it will get the "killer DM" rep and less and less players will want to play with such a DM and/or the DM's group who like it that way. The so called "killer DM" will be looked down upon as a somehow inferior or otherwise lesser DM by the growing community of princess-players. This pampered-player-character slant will creep into supplements and adventures...with the default idea that character death is 'rare'. Eventually, 5e will start to stagnate, much like 4e, because it didn't try and maintain customer satisfaction, instead going for the quick-buck. In the end, the suits will sink to their knees, thrust their open arms outward and cast their gaze to the heavens and cry "Dear Gods! Why?! We don't understand! We gave everything, and still you, oh fickle deities of commerce, shun us! Why...?!?...". With the final exhale of their breath they will sit. Dejected. Arms at side, head hanging low, and their tears will drown the world in sorrow... Or something like that anyway. [I]EDIT: Wow. Just re-read that. Hmmm...yeah, I think I'm definitely in the "old grognard camp". The good thing about the old grognard camp (that's "O.G.C (tm)" for short) is that we're mostly harmless old coots sitting on the front porch listening to our phonographs and yelling for all the kids to get off our lawn. Don't worry, kids, we'll be dead soon and you can take over our spot in a few years... ;) [/I] ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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