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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3706110" data-attributes="member: 2011">True. But, it depends on the DM. Some DMs do not allow a caster to just pick the optimal point of origin grid intersection on the board where his PC cannot see. Instead, they ask for range/direction and do not allow the player to count it out. So, it depends on the DM.How did you handle cramped quarters in that module? I suspect that you didn't because you compared both attacks against each set of opponents.How did you handle hostages or civilains in the way in that module?How did you handle opponents in that module that surround the PCs and ambush them?How did you handle opponents that rush into the PCs and melee with them right away?The point is that for an analysis of which spell when both are applicable, your analysis is good.It is not good for many common scenarios that you did not take into account. Cramped quarters alone should account for 25% of scenarios where AoE spells are not usable at all. It's a major weakness of AoE spells that you analysis could not take into account.Based on your limitations, I think you did a great job. I just think it is misleading data. It handles a subset of encounter scenarios, not a superset.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3706110, member: 2011"] True. But, it depends on the DM. Some DMs do not allow a caster to just pick the optimal point of origin grid intersection on the board where his PC cannot see. Instead, they ask for range/direction and do not allow the player to count it out. So, it depends on the DM. How did you handle cramped quarters in that module? I suspect that you didn't because you compared both attacks against each set of opponents. How did you handle hostages or civilains in the way in that module? How did you handle opponents in that module that surround the PCs and ambush them? How did you handle opponents that rush into the PCs and melee with them right away? The point is that for an analysis of which spell when both are applicable, your analysis is good. It is not good for many common scenarios that you did not take into account. Cramped quarters alone should account for 25% of scenarios where AoE spells are not usable at all. It's a major weakness of AoE spells that you analysis could not take into account. Based on your limitations, I think you did a great job. I just think it is misleading data. It handles a subset of encounter scenarios, not a superset. [/QUOTE]

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