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<blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 4200983" data-attributes="member: 834"><p>I don't mind fancy weapon like Edged quarterstaff and whatnot. </p><p></p><p>And I'm not a rabid simulationist.</p><p></p><p>But the idea that quarterstaff-like weapon could be used as for 'Two-weapon' fighting always struck as ludicrous. Yes, you can potentially hit someone with the upper and lower part of a quarterstaff if you used it uncoventionnally*. But a trained swordman can make a swing followed by a backhand in less time than a guy with a quarterstaff can hit with both end of his weapon. </p><p></p><p>A quarterstaff is a two-handed weapon. Sure, you can describe your actions as attacks coming from all direction. But if the staff is gonna get an advantage, it's in term of striking power. You have good leverage on this weapon. But speed (Two attacks)? Gimme a break. </p><p></p><p>As I said, I'm not a big simulationist but this two-weapon fighting with a quarterstaff strikes me as being just as absurd as doing so with a greatsword, for example.**</p><p></p><p>*For the record, quartersatff were primarily used to thrust, anyway. If someone got past your thrusting range you were in trouble. You used it mostly like a polearm. In fact, the normal way to use the quarterstaff was with one hand in the center and the other halfway before the end (the quarter). It is one of the potential source for the name quarterstaff. That made using the lower part of the weapon on a routine basis rather unlikely.</p><p></p><p>**Also for the record, a Greatsword was commonly used with 'Half sword' techniques where you would put a hand halfway on the blade and use the sword much like a quarterstaff. Still, treating a greatsword as two weapons would be absurd, as it is for a quarterstaff. </p><p></p><p>Bottom line, bring on the fancy fantasy quarterstaff-like double-sword. Just don't pretend it's an alternative to two-weapon fighting. Treat them like two-handed weapons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mal Malenkirk, post: 4200983, member: 834"] I don't mind fancy weapon like Edged quarterstaff and whatnot. And I'm not a rabid simulationist. But the idea that quarterstaff-like weapon could be used as for 'Two-weapon' fighting always struck as ludicrous. Yes, you can potentially hit someone with the upper and lower part of a quarterstaff if you used it uncoventionnally*. But a trained swordman can make a swing followed by a backhand in less time than a guy with a quarterstaff can hit with both end of his weapon. A quarterstaff is a two-handed weapon. Sure, you can describe your actions as attacks coming from all direction. But if the staff is gonna get an advantage, it's in term of striking power. You have good leverage on this weapon. But speed (Two attacks)? Gimme a break. As I said, I'm not a big simulationist but this two-weapon fighting with a quarterstaff strikes me as being just as absurd as doing so with a greatsword, for example.** *For the record, quartersatff were primarily used to thrust, anyway. If someone got past your thrusting range you were in trouble. You used it mostly like a polearm. In fact, the normal way to use the quarterstaff was with one hand in the center and the other halfway before the end (the quarter). It is one of the potential source for the name quarterstaff. That made using the lower part of the weapon on a routine basis rather unlikely. **Also for the record, a Greatsword was commonly used with 'Half sword' techniques where you would put a hand halfway on the blade and use the sword much like a quarterstaff. Still, treating a greatsword as two weapons would be absurd, as it is for a quarterstaff. Bottom line, bring on the fancy fantasy quarterstaff-like double-sword. Just don't pretend it's an alternative to two-weapon fighting. Treat them like two-handed weapons. [/QUOTE]
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