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<blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 3783666" data-attributes="member: 7883"><p>I'm going to preface this argument by saying that I understand I'm reading a logical question, into an inherently illogical/unrealistic situation.</p><p></p><p>How will the nations of FR exist, people be able to buy stuff, and all that, if it *was* made "points of light"? I mean, if it's points of light, that means that vast stretches of the world are infested with evil, destructive, and unfriendly monsters. That poses problems for farmers, merchants etc. which makes goods harder to come by, economies not function as well, etc. etc. It's compounded if 1st lvl PCs are "heroes"....because if they're "heroes", and heroes are defined as being far better than the norm, how can cities, nations etc. even exist? The world is full of 1st level regulars...commoners, city watchment, farmers, men-at-arms, knights, etc. But if each of them is inferior to a 1st lvl hero, the whole thing comes apart?</p><p></p><p>This is one aspect of design in 3E and 4E that I don't like....or rather, that I'm not keen on with Eberron 3E at least......that the PCs stand out so much over everyone else. The PCs in a campaign are 4 people. Maybe 5. There are millions of people who would depend on them, thousands of monsters, and they can't be everywhere at once.</p><p></p><p>I kind of prefer the idea of a world where the PCs are heroes, but they're not the *only* heroes.....where there are competent people all over the place (but still not common), who are doing stuff to protect the locals when the PCs aren't around. FR always felt like this....particularly with having other NPCs around. My only issue with the FR NPCs was the sheer number of them who used to be able to do stuff that no PC could do. 3E did fix that, by giving rules for how many of those NPCs do the extra stuff, thus making sure that they were bound by the same rules as regular PCs were.</p><p></p><p>Banshee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Banshee16, post: 3783666, member: 7883"] I'm going to preface this argument by saying that I understand I'm reading a logical question, into an inherently illogical/unrealistic situation. How will the nations of FR exist, people be able to buy stuff, and all that, if it *was* made "points of light"? I mean, if it's points of light, that means that vast stretches of the world are infested with evil, destructive, and unfriendly monsters. That poses problems for farmers, merchants etc. which makes goods harder to come by, economies not function as well, etc. etc. It's compounded if 1st lvl PCs are "heroes"....because if they're "heroes", and heroes are defined as being far better than the norm, how can cities, nations etc. even exist? The world is full of 1st level regulars...commoners, city watchment, farmers, men-at-arms, knights, etc. But if each of them is inferior to a 1st lvl hero, the whole thing comes apart? This is one aspect of design in 3E and 4E that I don't like....or rather, that I'm not keen on with Eberron 3E at least......that the PCs stand out so much over everyone else. The PCs in a campaign are 4 people. Maybe 5. There are millions of people who would depend on them, thousands of monsters, and they can't be everywhere at once. I kind of prefer the idea of a world where the PCs are heroes, but they're not the *only* heroes.....where there are competent people all over the place (but still not common), who are doing stuff to protect the locals when the PCs aren't around. FR always felt like this....particularly with having other NPCs around. My only issue with the FR NPCs was the sheer number of them who used to be able to do stuff that no PC could do. 3E did fix that, by giving rules for how many of those NPCs do the extra stuff, thus making sure that they were bound by the same rules as regular PCs were. Banshee [/QUOTE]
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