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Do you think WotC rebooting Forgotten Realms for 4e would be a good idea?
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<blockquote data-quote="Razz" data-source="post: 3783827" data-attributes="member: 3014"><p><strong>Thanks for killing the Realms</strong></p><p></p><p>I want to thank (sarcastically) the FR designers in completely doing away with everything we've come to know and love about the Realms. WotC is already alienating us veterans from past editions with this new junk coming with 4E, and now they're trying to get rid of us veteran Realms fans.</p><p></p><p>I've read the entries from the years 1375 D.R. to 1385 D.R. (where it ends) in the <em><strong>Grand History of the Realms</strong></em>. Apparently, one of the things about the Realms that I found awesome was its cultures, and cultures bring many religions. The Realms had many deities and it was a fun and variable setting for anyone. There was room to run whatever campaign you wanted.</p><p></p><p>And now, thanks to this 4E FR crap, they've gone on a huge deicide. Within those ten years, they first killed off Selvetarm and Vhaeraun. Then they kill off Kiaransalee, leaving only Eilistraee and Lolth. They're trying to make the "game" simpler because, apparently, there're too many retard gamers that can't handle a little variety instead of the typical "Good God, Evil God" scenario, which is now what the drow pantheon has turned into.</p><p></p><p>They then kill off Deep Duerra and Laduguer. Sorry, folks, no duergar clerics in your Realms now! In the process, they lost Gorm Gulthyn and Haela Brightaxe.</p><p></p><p>Then you kill off Helm. Then, to top it all off, you decide to slay Mystra completely in 1385, screw every spellcaster and form of magic in the Realms with this Spellplague junk, and then say only greater deities managed to live, so now you killed off EVERY deity instead of the greater gods.</p><p></p><p>Someone tell me why all this is a good thing for the Realms? I'm a conservative Realms fan. I don't mind changes...but so many RSE within the span of a year, five years, 10 years? That's ludicrous.</p><p></p><p>You don't have to restructure the Realms by killing off so many deities and making the world so much smaller. You just made the most involved, detailed setting into the most mundane, simpleton setting. Thanks for not only ruining D&D, but also the Realms.</p><p></p><p>I believe I am going to consider developing an organization opposing WotC's policies with D&D. They need to be stopped before they destroy the game entirely. Well, what am I saying? There's no point for me to do that...</p><p></p><p>They already have destroyed the game and a famous setting along with it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>I agree with Ed Greenwood on everything, especially how the "neighborhood changes and it'll never be the same, wonderful original it was before". But I do disagree with him on one thing: nothing in anyone's right mind can they say all these changes to D&D, from 4th Edition to 4th Edition Forgotten Realms, is going to be a GOOD thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Razz, post: 3783827, member: 3014"] [b]Thanks for killing the Realms[/b] I want to thank (sarcastically) the FR designers in completely doing away with everything we've come to know and love about the Realms. WotC is already alienating us veterans from past editions with this new junk coming with 4E, and now they're trying to get rid of us veteran Realms fans. I've read the entries from the years 1375 D.R. to 1385 D.R. (where it ends) in the [I][B]Grand History of the Realms[/B][/I]. Apparently, one of the things about the Realms that I found awesome was its cultures, and cultures bring many religions. The Realms had many deities and it was a fun and variable setting for anyone. There was room to run whatever campaign you wanted. And now, thanks to this 4E FR crap, they've gone on a huge deicide. Within those ten years, they first killed off Selvetarm and Vhaeraun. Then they kill off Kiaransalee, leaving only Eilistraee and Lolth. They're trying to make the "game" simpler because, apparently, there're too many retard gamers that can't handle a little variety instead of the typical "Good God, Evil God" scenario, which is now what the drow pantheon has turned into. They then kill off Deep Duerra and Laduguer. Sorry, folks, no duergar clerics in your Realms now! In the process, they lost Gorm Gulthyn and Haela Brightaxe. Then you kill off Helm. Then, to top it all off, you decide to slay Mystra completely in 1385, screw every spellcaster and form of magic in the Realms with this Spellplague junk, and then say only greater deities managed to live, so now you killed off EVERY deity instead of the greater gods. Someone tell me why all this is a good thing for the Realms? I'm a conservative Realms fan. I don't mind changes...but so many RSE within the span of a year, five years, 10 years? That's ludicrous. You don't have to restructure the Realms by killing off so many deities and making the world so much smaller. You just made the most involved, detailed setting into the most mundane, simpleton setting. Thanks for not only ruining D&D, but also the Realms. I believe I am going to consider developing an organization opposing WotC's policies with D&D. They need to be stopped before they destroy the game entirely. Well, what am I saying? There's no point for me to do that... They already have destroyed the game and a famous setting along with it. :rolleyes: I agree with Ed Greenwood on everything, especially how the "neighborhood changes and it'll never be the same, wonderful original it was before". But I do disagree with him on one thing: nothing in anyone's right mind can they say all these changes to D&D, from 4th Edition to 4th Edition Forgotten Realms, is going to be a GOOD thing. [/QUOTE]
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