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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 8308103" data-attributes="member: 3400">When it comes to tinkering with adventures, yes, I definitely tinker with adventures to make them more relevant to the PCs brought to the table. If there are challenges that need specific keys to overcome, and the PCs are unlikely to be able to inherently generate them, I'll insert them into the earlier parts of the adventure/campaign. It's a technique I learned from running some Paizo APs because they had a tendency, at least with early APs, to do that very thing. But another thing to consider is your players. Are they the types of players who are fairly resilient and bounce back from being stymied by a challenge, determined to try again with a new approach? Or are they the type who feel that just bashing through a lot of hit points should work against any foe? Do they feel that an apparently 'unbeatable' situation is cause to analyze and plan or is it cause to whine and complain about unfairness?If the former, then these situations are great - just telegraph a little bit about how their actions are having no effect, let them retreat, and let them plot and plan how to re-approach the situation. If the latter, and your own terms about being forced to leave the quest incomplete kind of suggests this, then you might as well adjust the situations to be winnable given their style of play. There are some gamers who like challenges that require them to reset and revise, and there are some who don't. Challenges written for the former won't work for the latter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 8308103, member: 3400"] When it comes to tinkering with adventures, yes, I definitely tinker with adventures to make them more relevant to the PCs brought to the table. If there are challenges that need specific keys to overcome, and the PCs are unlikely to be able to inherently generate them, I'll insert them into the earlier parts of the adventure/campaign. It's a technique I learned from running some Paizo APs because they had a tendency, at least with early APs, to do that very thing. But another thing to consider is your players. Are they the types of players who are fairly resilient and bounce back from being stymied by a challenge, determined to try again with a new approach? Or are they the type who feel that just bashing through a lot of hit points should work against any foe? Do they feel that an apparently 'unbeatable' situation is cause to analyze and plan or is it cause to whine and complain about unfairness? If the former, then these situations are great - just telegraph a little bit about how their actions are having no effect, let them retreat, and let them plot and plan how to re-approach the situation. If the latter, and your own terms about being forced to leave the quest incomplete kind of suggests this, then you might as well adjust the situations to be winnable given their style of play. There are some gamers who like challenges that require them to reset and revise, and there are some who don't. Challenges written for the former won't work for the latter. [/QUOTE]

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