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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 7397964" data-attributes="member: 6688277">No, but you described a SC as a die-rolling exercise - or that is what it appeared to you. I'm just replying the same can be said about combat. Do you have a valid response to this?Cheated? Interesting choice of word.  If you have the fear of being cheated by your DM, then I suggest your problem is much larger than whether you will incorporate a SC mechanic at the table. The 'encounter' could be a series of checks spaced within the DM's narration of the group traversing through the Spine of the World within a limited period of time or navigating the mind of a deranged mindflayer through careful interrogation for a piece of information. The trustworthy DM is well within his/her rights to disclose or keep hidden that they are part of a skill challenge.You can certainly run the SC with the bare bones you have described above, it sounds unappealing to me to. BUT you can also run it as part of a story requiring much less overhead.Yes, I'm afraid that feeling is all too familiar. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />Again refer to the Rules Compendium. Firstly, leaving aside your fear of the cheating and untrustworthy DM at your table which is a serious concern all unto itself, depending on the type of SC I wouldn't necessarily reveal the number of successes to the SC. I would reveal if it were for example the closing of a portal to the Dimension of Nightmares and there were 5 visible archaic incantations which were holding it in place and each incantation required a check to undo it...But I wouldn't disclose the number of successes required for say the safe navigating of the PC vessel to the Isle of Dread.Secondly successful infinitesimal actions means 0 successes. The DM through narration (usually) creates the decision making points in the story which call for the players to decide which/what skill to use. Lord McDco and co. of Basque Country carrying a log to fix the Wagon does not require a check at my table, unless they had to traverse some tricky terrain or if time was a critical concern and the forest where they cut the wood was quite a distance off...</blockquote>

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