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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8281421" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Apologies, but I’m not quite sure how your example here with the guard and the forced documents relates to my argument, which was about players getting to decide if and when their characters get bored. I would say that presenting forged documents is a case where multiple attempts shouldn’t be possible, but not because of anything to do with the characters getting bored. Rather, in that situation the consequence of the failed action (the guard catching on that the documents are forged) results in a change in the scenario. The guard’s knowledge that these characters have handed him forged documents is a material element of the fiction preventing the characters from just trying again.Also, as [USER=97077]@iserith[/USER] pointed out earlier, lying to a guard is specifically used in the rules as an example of a situation where an action can’t be attempted multiple times.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8281421, member: 6779196"] Apologies, but I’m not quite sure how your example here with the guard and the forced documents relates to my argument, which was about players getting to decide if and when their characters get bored. I would say that presenting forged documents is a case where multiple attempts shouldn’t be possible, but not because of anything to do with the characters getting bored. Rather, in that situation the consequence of the failed action (the guard catching on that the documents are forged) results in a change in the scenario. The guard’s knowledge that these characters have handed him forged documents is a material element of the fiction preventing the characters from just trying again. Also, as [USER=97077]@iserith[/USER] pointed out earlier, lying to a guard is specifically used in the rules as an example of a situation where an action can’t be attempted multiple times. [/QUOTE]

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