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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8282130" data-attributes="member: 6704184">I do and I’ve provided it several times, you just reject it so completely that you act like I never said it!&nbsp; &nbsp;In the fiction, you already tried. If your character would spend the next month working the problem, then you either did or didn’t take that long based on the roll, whereas if you’d only try a few times and leave it for later if you couldn’t get it, then the roll reflects success or failure on all the attempts you made during that time.&nbsp; Either way, it’s one roll, or set of rolls. You make a check to represent whatever effort you put in to the task, overall. There is no “again”, because you can’t add to “overall”, it’s inherently part of it.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;The only difference between what you do and what I do is that I (and the player) determine the fiction, in part, after the check is made. This leads to more consistent fiction and, IME, better gameplay. It’s based on the same fiction, translated slightly differently via the mechanics.Then I am probably going to have to just give up. I don’t know how I can explain it any more clearly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8282130, member: 6704184"] I do and I’ve provided it several times, you just reject it so completely that you act like I never said it! In the fiction, you already tried. If your character would spend the next month working the problem, then you either did or didn’t take that long based on the roll, whereas if you’d only try a few times and leave it for later if you couldn’t get it, then the roll reflects success or failure on all the attempts you made during that time. Either way, it’s one roll, or set of rolls. You make a check to represent whatever effort you put in to the task, overall. There is no “again”, because you can’t add to “overall”, it’s inherently part of it. The only difference between what you do and what I do is that I (and the player) determine the fiction, in part, after the check is made. This leads to more consistent fiction and, IME, better gameplay. It’s based on the same fiction, translated slightly differently via the mechanics. Then I am probably going to have to just give up. I don’t know how I can explain it any more clearly. [/QUOTE]

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