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<blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 5755930" data-attributes="member: 98255"><p>I read a lot of bleating about this, primarily from Paizo fans and the anti-WotC crowd, but the truth is, we don't know how well D&D is doing compared to PF. Nobody but insiders at Wizards have access to the true numbers behind DDi. Paizo is most certainly outselling WotC in the book stores, but Paizo also doesn't have a digital subscription service.</p><p></p><p>It may very well still be that DDi is a flop - like I said, nobody but the bean-counters and brass at WotC/Hasbro know for sure - but until anyone has some actual facts to back up these claims, they're just making noise.</p><p></p><p>Quite frankly, I don't care who sells more - I care about what I like - end of story.</p><p></p><p>I just suspect that a lot of this feeling of who outsells who comes from the echo chamber effect that is so prevalent in the General section of the forum, and at a lot of FLGSes, and even among peoples' own circle of gamers.</p><p></p><p>This is in part because the OGL was designed specifically so you *couldn't* put the genie back in the proverbial bottle. The license was modelled after the open-source software movement, and the "stick-it-to-the-man" part of me loves that, and wishes that it had continued into 4e.</p><p></p><p>If they had continued to use it for 4e, the market may very well have done more to embrace 4e (as Eric Mona initially thought it would*), and we might have a very different landscape in the RPG world today. Don't misread me - I'm not saying a better one, just different. In fact, I'm happy that the people that liked the 3.x architecture continue to have support. I wish it could be so for all editions, from OD&D, AD&D, BECMI, etc.</p><p></p><p>* the thread is still around on ENWorld. I didn't care to look it up, but trust me, it's here somewhere.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nemesis Destiny, post: 5755930, member: 98255"] I read a lot of bleating about this, primarily from Paizo fans and the anti-WotC crowd, but the truth is, we don't know how well D&D is doing compared to PF. Nobody but insiders at Wizards have access to the true numbers behind DDi. Paizo is most certainly outselling WotC in the book stores, but Paizo also doesn't have a digital subscription service. It may very well still be that DDi is a flop - like I said, nobody but the bean-counters and brass at WotC/Hasbro know for sure - but until anyone has some actual facts to back up these claims, they're just making noise. Quite frankly, I don't care who sells more - I care about what I like - end of story. I just suspect that a lot of this feeling of who outsells who comes from the echo chamber effect that is so prevalent in the General section of the forum, and at a lot of FLGSes, and even among peoples' own circle of gamers. This is in part because the OGL was designed specifically so you *couldn't* put the genie back in the proverbial bottle. The license was modelled after the open-source software movement, and the "stick-it-to-the-man" part of me loves that, and wishes that it had continued into 4e. If they had continued to use it for 4e, the market may very well have done more to embrace 4e (as Eric Mona initially thought it would*), and we might have a very different landscape in the RPG world today. Don't misread me - I'm not saying a better one, just different. In fact, I'm happy that the people that liked the 3.x architecture continue to have support. I wish it could be so for all editions, from OD&D, AD&D, BECMI, etc. * the thread is still around on ENWorld. I didn't care to look it up, but trust me, it's here somewhere. [/QUOTE]
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