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<blockquote data-quote="Truth Seeker" data-source="post: 3729869" data-attributes="member: 11804"><p>Must expand on that, and after reading all the current pages from the PC mobile to desktop, from last night to this morning.</p><p></p><p>You are only one, to give mention to a culture reference.</p><p></p><p>Besides having a cultural background, the majority of the 'core' races have other points not mentioned.</p><p></p><p>A loosely based 'Government' structure system.</p><p>Economic resources and value.</p><p>The ability to raise arm forces in the time of defensive and war.</p><p></p><p>Does the suppose including mention of the "Tiefling" meet this requirements?</p><p></p><p>Shucks, even some of the non-human races, can at least meet two or three of the four setups to be classified as a near 'core' class.</p><p></p><p>Half-breeds cannot.</p><p></p><p>I read some posts, that mentioned the removal of the half-breeds altogether...and yes, it is high time, such a thing needs to be done.</p><p></p><p>That 'feature' has run its course, and so far, so far...has anyone seen a module (not a novel), that the half-breeds have become a nation unto theirselves?</p><p></p><p>Anyone?</p><p></p><p>Sorry to sound pratical, but pratical common sense needed here. Even in the fantasy settings.</p><p></p><p>The mere mentioned of this 'mixed breeding' getting the core race stamp, is also very short-sighted. The other before mentioend half-breeds of Orc and Elf, should get that 'status' too. Cause, they have been around much longer, in previous and current core books.</p><p></p><p>Some others have said on the 'Tieflings', they are just there as a flavor, coloring, fluff.</p><p></p><p>The cool looking factor of being different.</p><p></p><p>All nice and dandy.</p><p></p><p>But from a pratical 'core race' classification requirement...they don't have it.</p><p></p><p>Not now, and not ever.</p><p></p><p>But all of this could be changed, if someone in the R&D box fonted the possible argument, that yeah...it is time to flip the switch, it is time to go crazy.</p><p></p><p>And yeah, it has been a accepted part as well, that books or material must grow up also.</p><p></p><p>But let's be pratical here...and puts some sense into it. Let there be near-fool-proof-reason of an existence that should be there.</p><p></p><p>And not just, for the hell of it.</p><p></p><p>Let the detractors and non-detractors be given sufficient understanding of why, such a thing may or must exist.</p><p></p><p>We honestly deserve that much. At this time, oh yes we do.</p><p></p><p>And the saddest part of this all. And funny to a point too. On a social scale outlook, to earn a 'core race' marker, what social outstanding benefits are there, that will advance them into a acceptable status, of being...a major race?</p><p></p><p>Feel free to pick this apart.</p><p></p><p>And oh, No is my vote.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Truth Seeker, post: 3729869, member: 11804"] Must expand on that, and after reading all the current pages from the PC mobile to desktop, from last night to this morning. You are only one, to give mention to a culture reference. Besides having a cultural background, the majority of the 'core' races have other points not mentioned. A loosely based 'Government' structure system. Economic resources and value. The ability to raise arm forces in the time of defensive and war. Does the suppose including mention of the "Tiefling" meet this requirements? Shucks, even some of the non-human races, can at least meet two or three of the four setups to be classified as a near 'core' class. Half-breeds cannot. I read some posts, that mentioned the removal of the half-breeds altogether...and yes, it is high time, such a thing needs to be done. That 'feature' has run its course, and so far, so far...has anyone seen a module (not a novel), that the half-breeds have become a nation unto theirselves? Anyone? Sorry to sound pratical, but pratical common sense needed here. Even in the fantasy settings. The mere mentioned of this 'mixed breeding' getting the core race stamp, is also very short-sighted. The other before mentioend half-breeds of Orc and Elf, should get that 'status' too. Cause, they have been around much longer, in previous and current core books. Some others have said on the 'Tieflings', they are just there as a flavor, coloring, fluff. The cool looking factor of being different. All nice and dandy. But from a pratical 'core race' classification requirement...they don't have it. Not now, and not ever. But all of this could be changed, if someone in the R&D box fonted the possible argument, that yeah...it is time to flip the switch, it is time to go crazy. And yeah, it has been a accepted part as well, that books or material must grow up also. But let's be pratical here...and puts some sense into it. Let there be near-fool-proof-reason of an existence that should be there. And not just, for the hell of it. Let the detractors and non-detractors be given sufficient understanding of why, such a thing may or must exist. We honestly deserve that much. At this time, oh yes we do. And the saddest part of this all. And funny to a point too. On a social scale outlook, to earn a 'core race' marker, what social outstanding benefits are there, that will advance them into a acceptable status, of being...a major race? Feel free to pick this apart. And oh, No is my vote. [/QUOTE]
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