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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5598140" data-attributes="member: 7006">Not at all.  I was reiterating what Kzach himself pointed out.He said...He basically tells us that he will take every advantage WotC makes available to him to max out his character when it comes to the dice rolls in combat (since that is what most of the dice rolls in 4E go towards).  He would just prefer that the Five Feats of Doom not exist and its numbers get rolled directly into the game itself... so that his limited resource of feats could be used elsewhere.  He wants his cake and to eat it too.  And heck, I understand his point of view.  I think we'd all love the Game to give us stuff for free... rather than rely on our own devices to do so (because he, just like everyone else, could get all the Five Feats of Doom absolutely free just by saying "for this game, these feats are granted automatically).But for whatever reason... whether they are all absolutely and unequivicably beholden to the concept of Ruled As Written (as though every single game they play is a Living or tournament game where houserules theoretically don't exist)... or there's some sort of desire of ego to work the system to create the ultimate character that is maxed out combat-wise and roleplay-wise... the idea of just accepting what WotC is giving them and working around it is an anathema to him and others like him.  If you can't have your cake and eat it too... then obviously it's because the baker just sucks, and it's up to them to continually rant about the baker's performance.  Over, and over, and over, and over again.The rest of us just sit here continually telling them "Yeah, we get it.  But it ain't changing.  The game is what it is.  So you might as well just get over it or get used to it... or just make the changes to your own game to get you want you want."  But this continually falls upon deaf ears.</blockquote>

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