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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5599237" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>I'm not sure it is true to say it doesn't exist in those campaigns. Again, the wider the range of possible PC optimization, the harder a time the DM will be able to judge what the group is capable of, challenge wise. </p><p> </p><p>As it is, though, I think improvement for the sake of making it a better game to more players would be a pretty self-explanatory reason. I'm not proposing they immediately, this second, revise the entire game. Again, many of these thoughts are getting tossed out there in the context of adjustments to home games, the ideal system I'd like to see in the next edition, etc. </p><p> </p><p>But I think that a system that helps those games which include a mix of players - which I think is likely a solid number of the campaigns out there, and especially felt in RPGA games like LFR or D&D Encounters - is a good thing. </p><p> </p><p>And I think it is attainable while still serving the needs of the all optimized campaigns and all non-optimized campaigns. <em>And </em>I think it will remove a lot of this burden being on the DM to judge PC capabilities and adjust the campaign to suit them. </p><p> </p><p>Again - I'm not expecting, nor do I even want, perfection. I'm not saying I want a system where every challenge is identical for every group. But I ran a campaign through Epic level. Some PCs were doing absurd stuff compared to others. It <em>was </em>a pain to challenge both of them. Less of a pain than figuring out similar encounters in 3rd Edition, it is true. I didn't need to account for various high level spells and capabilities. But I did need to account for simple mechanical potency and try to provide a good experience for all the players at once. </p><p> </p><p>I'd like to think I was up to the task. That doesn't change the fact I would have been quite happy if the system had done some more of the work for me. </p><p> </p><p>In the end, again, I don't think a problem should be excused by putting the burden on the DM. If it can be fixed within the system itself, and if this would provide a positive benefit for many players, DMs and groups out there... then it should be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5599237, member: 61155"] I'm not sure it is true to say it doesn't exist in those campaigns. Again, the wider the range of possible PC optimization, the harder a time the DM will be able to judge what the group is capable of, challenge wise. As it is, though, I think improvement for the sake of making it a better game to more players would be a pretty self-explanatory reason. I'm not proposing they immediately, this second, revise the entire game. Again, many of these thoughts are getting tossed out there in the context of adjustments to home games, the ideal system I'd like to see in the next edition, etc. But I think that a system that helps those games which include a mix of players - which I think is likely a solid number of the campaigns out there, and especially felt in RPGA games like LFR or D&D Encounters - is a good thing. And I think it is attainable while still serving the needs of the all optimized campaigns and all non-optimized campaigns. [I]And [/I]I think it will remove a lot of this burden being on the DM to judge PC capabilities and adjust the campaign to suit them. Again - I'm not expecting, nor do I even want, perfection. I'm not saying I want a system where every challenge is identical for every group. But I ran a campaign through Epic level. Some PCs were doing absurd stuff compared to others. It [I]was [/I]a pain to challenge both of them. Less of a pain than figuring out similar encounters in 3rd Edition, it is true. I didn't need to account for various high level spells and capabilities. But I did need to account for simple mechanical potency and try to provide a good experience for all the players at once. I'd like to think I was up to the task. That doesn't change the fact I would have been quite happy if the system had done some more of the work for me. In the end, again, I don't think a problem should be excused by putting the burden on the DM. If it can be fixed within the system itself, and if this would provide a positive benefit for many players, DMs and groups out there... then it should be. [/QUOTE]
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