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<blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 6802959" data-attributes="member: 6701872"><p>Firstly, don't presume that I was trying to say something - I said exactly what I meant with the words I chose.</p><p></p><p>You are falsely equating all information concealed by the DM, that is evidently why you are having trouble understanding what I've been saying.</p><p></p><p>This statement has nothing to do with the topic as far as I can tell.</p><p></p><p>I am not. I am, I thought clearly, considering inequality of information and outright lies as separate things.</p><p></p><p>For example, rolling a die and the player having no idea what the die was being rolled for (maybe it's a stealth check for a monster, maybe it's a random chance of a certain event, maybe it's the DM flipping a coin to decide between two equally interesting things, etc.) is inequality of information - the DM knows what the die meant, while the player only knows that the die roll meant <em>something</em>. While rolling a die that doesn't mean anything, it's just being rolled for the sound it makes, and letting the player believe that the die roll meant something is a different thing entirely because it is a lie - not just inequality of information, but the presentation of information for the purpose of deception.</p><p></p><p>"Seeing the wires" is, in my experience, less marring to the experience, and for less people, than realizing that your DM lied about X and thus might be lying about anything/everything else.</p><p></p><p>No, I'm not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I'm not talking about taking some resolution behind the screen - I'm specifically talking about pretending you are using one sort of resolution, dice, when you aren't.</p><p></p><p>Also, a screen does not imply everything you think it implies - I use a screen for the majority of games systems I run, and all it inherently implies is this: I like having commonly used reference stuff easily accessible during the session.</p><p></p><p>I would still like to see your (and anyone else's) answer to the question I ask in my thought exercise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AaronOfBarbaria, post: 6802959, member: 6701872"] Firstly, don't presume that I was trying to say something - I said exactly what I meant with the words I chose. You are falsely equating all information concealed by the DM, that is evidently why you are having trouble understanding what I've been saying. This statement has nothing to do with the topic as far as I can tell. I am not. I am, I thought clearly, considering inequality of information and outright lies as separate things. For example, rolling a die and the player having no idea what the die was being rolled for (maybe it's a stealth check for a monster, maybe it's a random chance of a certain event, maybe it's the DM flipping a coin to decide between two equally interesting things, etc.) is inequality of information - the DM knows what the die meant, while the player only knows that the die roll meant [I]something[/I]. While rolling a die that doesn't mean anything, it's just being rolled for the sound it makes, and letting the player believe that the die roll meant something is a different thing entirely because it is a lie - not just inequality of information, but the presentation of information for the purpose of deception. "Seeing the wires" is, in my experience, less marring to the experience, and for less people, than realizing that your DM lied about X and thus might be lying about anything/everything else. No, I'm not. Again, I'm not talking about taking some resolution behind the screen - I'm specifically talking about pretending you are using one sort of resolution, dice, when you aren't. Also, a screen does not imply everything you think it implies - I use a screen for the majority of games systems I run, and all it inherently implies is this: I like having commonly used reference stuff easily accessible during the session. I would still like to see your (and anyone else's) answer to the question I ask in my thought exercise. [/QUOTE]
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