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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 914444" data-attributes="member: 8439">well, lets face it, slavery means something different to americans than to many (older) cultures. In many cultures, slavery brings the question &quot;how?&quot; Indentured servitude, valued servants, good friends could all be technically defined as slaves. But in america, the word slave really has only one major connotation, and its of a practice that was far more disgusting than merely killing people. (Comparing slavery to murder is just silly. Murder by definition is an unlawful killing. No self defense, defense of others, war, etc. The vast majority of PCs do not engage in what I would describe as murder, IME, though they may kill regularly.)I also wouldn't nessaccarily equate imprisonment with labor as slavery, depending on the reasons for imprisonment. Again, with the major connotations slavery brings to americans, slavery is not a punishment which may or may not be deserved. It is something done to another human being for no reason except the advantage it would give the slaver. In some cultures punishment could include what I would consider slavery, but I don't think of prison work crews as slaves. Anyway, none of my pcs have ever been the type to engage in either the wanton slaughter, or object like ownership of another senient being. OK, I had one druid who would have gone out and &quot;exterminated&quot; a nest of salamanders if given the chance, but she had a pretty limited veiw of other creature's sentience. Depending on how my DM chose to portray those sort of races, she could have been convinced to change her mind.basically, I don't play particularly evil PCs. So that eliminates both (american definition) slavery and (useful definition) Murder.Kahuna Burger</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 914444, member: 8439"] well, lets face it, slavery means something different to americans than to many (older) cultures. In many cultures, slavery brings the question "how?" Indentured servitude, valued servants, good friends could all be technically defined as slaves. But in america, the word slave really has only one major connotation, and its of a practice that was far more disgusting than merely killing people. (Comparing slavery to murder is just silly. Murder by definition is an unlawful killing. No self defense, defense of others, war, etc. The vast majority of PCs do not engage in what I would describe as murder, IME, though they may kill regularly.) I also wouldn't nessaccarily equate imprisonment with labor as slavery, depending on the reasons for imprisonment. Again, with the major connotations slavery brings to americans, slavery is not a punishment which may or may not be deserved. It is something done to another human being for no reason except the advantage it would give the slaver. In some cultures punishment could include what I would consider slavery, but I don't think of prison work crews as slaves. Anyway, none of my pcs have ever been the type to engage in either the wanton slaughter, or object like ownership of another senient being. OK, I had one druid who would have gone out and "exterminated" a nest of salamanders if given the chance, but she had a pretty limited veiw of other creature's sentience. Depending on how my DM chose to portray those sort of races, she could have been convinced to change her mind. basically, I don't play particularly evil PCs. So that eliminates both (american definition) slavery and (useful definition) Murder. Kahuna Burger [/QUOTE]

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